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Open Video Alliance launches Wikipedia video campaign (ars technica)

Ryan Paul covers the launch of the Open Video Alliance. "The Open Video Alliance (OVA), a group that seeks to promote adoption of standards-based open video technologies, has launched a new campaign encouraging users to upload videos to the Wikipedia website. The goals behind this new campaign are to visually enrich the online encyclopedia and promote awareness of the value that open video technologies can bring to the Web."
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Gif 2.0?

Posted Mar 19, 2010 17:20 UTC (Fri) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link]

Isn't this the GIF story all over again, but with Google as CompuServe and the h.264 consortium as Unisys? The only difference is that a lot of the Google people were there for the GIF mess.

By the way, the new buzzword for a technology that's either patent-free or whose patents are licensed for Free Software implementation is: Innovation-compatible (IC). More to the point than "royalty-free," and makes clear what the problem is.

Innovation-compatible

Posted Mar 19, 2010 17:25 UTC (Fri) by dwheeler (guest, #1216) [Link]

That phrase is new to me, but I think I like it. Any idea where it came from?

Innovation-compatible

Posted Mar 19, 2010 17:33 UTC (Fri) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link]

I made it up.

Innovation Compatible (IC)?

Posted Mar 19, 2010 18:33 UTC (Fri) by gbutler69 (guest, #54063) [Link]

Man, I like it. So we can all say, "II" (Pronounced Aye-Aye) for "Innovation Incompatible" or
"Incompatible with Innovation". I think all Open Source, Free/Libre software advocates should
use this terminology, along with "Defective by Design" and "Digital Restrictions Mandates"
when speaking about these sorts of issues. Just like some attempt to frame anti/pro-abortion as
"Pro-Choice" vs "Pro-Life". How we name something greatly affects the tempo of the debate.

I believe in "Innovation Compatible" software licenses and development practices!

You luddites who believe in "Innovation Incompatible" practices need to come into the 21st
century!

Innovation Compatible (IC)?

Posted Mar 19, 2010 19:02 UTC (Fri) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

I like it too! Unlike "Free Software" and "Open Source", "Innovation Compatible" stresses the last freedom of The Free Software Definition, namely the freedom to distribute modified copies.

By the way, innovationcompatible.org is still available.

Gif 2.0?

Posted Mar 19, 2010 19:35 UTC (Fri) by mlinksva (subscriber, #38268) [Link]

Long post from Christopher Blizzard on GIF analogy http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2010/01/html5-video-and-...

Gif 2.0?

Posted Mar 19, 2010 19:57 UTC (Fri) by cowsandmilk (subscriber, #55475) [Link]

I don't see how that even makes sense.

When Google chose to use H.264, they were fully aware of the patent situation around the technology.

When Compuserve invented GIF, they had no idea that they included pieces that were patented.

Google != Compuserve. They chose to use a file format, they didn't invent it. And they knew it was patented when they chose it.

Gif 2.0?

Posted Mar 21, 2010 14:40 UTC (Sun) by mosfet (guest, #45339) [Link]

The codec war is not fought on the desktop. Very soon the number of mobile devices that can access the internet will outnumber desktop computers.

The question is: How many mobile devices support HW accelerated Theora decoding? (software decoding on a battery powered device is not an alternative)

You can not just swap the data and decoding libraries for a better alternative like it was possible with GIF/PNG. This is where the analogy breaks IMHO.

Mobile problems exaggarated

Posted Mar 22, 2010 15:44 UTC (Mon) by mjr (subscriber, #6979) [Link]

The question is: How many mobile devices support HW accelerated Theora decoding? (software decoding on a battery powered device is not an alternative)

That's just silly. Of course it's an alternative. Not a very great one, but certainly a valid stopgap measure. Watching hours of web videos on a mobile in one sitting just isn't so common a use case as to make a solution completely useless if it doesn't provide it.

You can not just swap the data and decoding libraries for a better alternative like it was possible with GIF/PNG. This is where the analogy breaks IMHO.

Yes you can. Generally the "hardware" decoding is done on a DSP chip (well, or a DSP portion of a System-On-a-Chip). Guess what: they are programmable and you in fact _can_ swap the decoding libraries (if you can get access to the DSP, of course, which might be a problem with some of the more walled up devices). Not just theory, either: there is early but decent Theora decoding for a common DSP found on ARM SOCs already.

Apropos, here's some more summarization of the codec situation from my point of view.

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