Applications and bundled libraries
Posted Mar 18, 2010 2:11 UTC (Thu) by drag
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Still though packaging should be treated as part of the developer's responsibility and not
something that is 'downstream'.
It simply is not realistic to depend on third parties to know the proper way to build everything
and know exactly the right combination of dependency versioning and compile flags that you
(as a developer) have intended and tested against.
It can work for a few hundred packages easily enough to do it the 'apt-get way'. It can scale
upwards to several thousands. But to be on par with something like what Windows provides
you have to scale to millions and you have a shitload of programs that nobody in the Debian
project (or Fedora or Redhat or anybody else) will never be aware of, much less know enough
to package and build them for end users.
There is just simply no chance in hell that a centrally managed, closed system like the current
package management status quo can ever hope to scale and meet the diverse needs of the
It has to be a distributed system.. And the
only logical way (that I see it) is to do a distributed packaging system is by having it be
treated as part of the
programming of software and have all packaging happen 'upstream'. "Make install" should not
drop binaries onto /usr/local, it should produce a 'deb' or 'rpm' file. Software then should not
be distributed through tarballs or central source code repositories, but through built
Distributers would, then,
work with upstream package creation and aid and correct problems as they come up and
then collect as many popular packages as possible for the convience of the end users.
Distributions cannot behave that they are the sole source of the software and
libraries people are going to want and require.
To do that it's going to require substantial changes in how Linux, as a operating system,
is managed and coordinated. Centralized repositories are stop-gap at best and only exist
through pure brute force of volenteers. It won't continue for ever. People will get burned out
doing the same old thing again and again.
The quicker people realize this and be willing to abandon technically excellent solutions for
world practical/useful ones, the better off all of us are going to be.
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