Re: Upstream first policy [LWN.net]

From:		Dave Airlie <airlied-AT-gmail.com>
To:		Ingo Molnar <mingo-AT-elte.hu>
Subject:		Re: Upstream first policy
Date:		Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:46:33 +1000
Message-ID:		<21d7e9971003090046n7da34978n36b1745184f412a@mail.gmail.com>
Cc:		Linus Torvalds <torvalds-AT-linux-foundation.org>, Alan Cox <alan-AT-lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, James Morris <jmorris-AT-namei.org>, linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org, Kyle McMartin <kyle-AT-mcmartin.ca>, Alexander Viro <viro-AT-ftp.linux.org.uk>
Archive-link:		Article, Thread

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Alan Cox wrote:
>> >
>> > man restorecond
>>
>> I know. I also sometimes sit through minutes of "let's relabel the system,
>> because you've booted a kernel without selinux support".
>
> I've had selinux relabeling wait times of an hour or two too, on a
> sufficiently large filesystem.
>
> I think this hurts security far more than anything else, because it causes
> people to actually _turn off the whole thing_ - so we will have less and less
> security in the end.
>
> ( To use the obligatory fire door analogy: we should prefer a one inch thick
>  fire door that opens and closes fully automated to a five inches thick fire
>  door that people keep always-open with a chair. )

selinux relabels are the new fsck.

maybe we need selinux3 or chunk-selinux.

Dave.
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