Freedom matters to everyonel, directly or indirectly [LWN.net]

Freedom matters to everyonel, directly or indirectly

Posted Mar 3, 2010 17:01 UTC (Wed) by Janne (guest, #40891)
In reply to: Freedom matters to everyonel, directly or indirectly by Zack
Parent article: Linux-2.6.33-libre released

"This is not to indicate you are wrong or right in your opinion; it's just that your perspective is probably so different from mine that it's nearly impossible to formulate something sensible enough to contribute to the thought process of the other side."

So, because I use a Mac, my thinking is somehow "tainted"? Fact is that I use both Linux and Mac. My main computer is a Mac, but I'm typing this message on my second laptop that runs Ubuntu.

Maybe what we need is exactly what you reject: different thinking. Should only hardcore Linux-users be allowed to comment on these kinds of things? Could you get a worthwhile discussion, if every participant has 95% identical opinions and thoughts on the subject-matter? Preaching to the choir doesn't really achieve anything.

I admit: I'm quite pragmatic when it comes to computers. I look for software and hardware that gives me maximum amount of satisfaction and use. It just happens that for me, Mac is it. But that does not mean that I have to "hate" Linux (I don't, I'm a card-carrying member of local LUG) or think free software as "stupid" (I don't think it's stupid, far far from it).

Mac is my primary machine, but I use and enjoy Linux as well. Linux gives me different kinds of benefits, and I enjoy testing new things. And I started using Linux in -98 or so, so I have quite a long experience with it.

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Freedom matters to everyonel, directly or indirectly

Posted Mar 3, 2010 17:24 UTC (Wed) by Zack (guest, #37335) [Link]

>So, because I use a Mac, my thinking is somehow "tainted"?

No, it's because you write "I honestly don't see that"; if you are indeed honest about that, and I have no reason to doubt that, it is an explanation to me why you write things like
"You are still not making any sense."
, which makes me raise an eyebrow and think
"Hold on, *you* are the one not making any sense.",
which is what I wrote:
"it's nearly impossible to formulate something sensible enough to contribute to the thought process of the other side", leading to two people not making any sense to one another.

>Maybe what we need is exactly what you reject: different thinking.

Yeah, I know, "think different".
But from a broader perspective, the Free Software community already are the weirdos doing the different thinking; going in the direction towards proprietary software doesn't need any championing, it's the status-quo.

Freedom matters to everyonel, directly or indirectly

Posted Mar 4, 2010 20:30 UTC (Thu) by papik (guest, #15175) [Link]

> Mac is my primary machine, but I use and enjoy Linux as well. Linux
> gives me different kinds of benefits, and I enjoy testing new things.

Maybe if Mac was free, you wouldn't need Linux to enjoy those different
kind of benefits.

It seems to me that you are looking at present (as "now I can do X and Y,
with non-free software, but only X with free software, so I'll use
non-free software", with the risk that noone is aware that Y is non-free
and never having free software doing Y and no software doing Y~) while
lxoliva is looking forward (as "everyone must be aware that we can't do Y
with free software", hoping that someone will write/release free software
doing Y and Y~ in the future).

(It seems to me that the lines following lines ending with '-' are being
cut, at least from the preview)