Board SWG Meeting 2010-03-01 Recap

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_strategic_wo...

== Roll Call ==
* Attendees: John Poelstra, Paul Frields, Chris Tyler, Mike McGrath, 
Colin Walters, Matt Domsch
* Notes from last meeting: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_strategic_wo...

== Spins Work ==
* Background:
** Matt and Colin have been collecting feedback to questions asked
** 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Walters/SpinsSigsRemi...
** 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Walters/SpinsSigsRemi...
** http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2010-Febru...
** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mdomsch/SWG_Spins
* Each spin producing group does believe they can and should define a 
target audience
* John: would it help clarify our message to refer to the live gnome 
desktop as the ''default offering'' rather than referring to it as a spin?
** Paul: Spins were initially conceived as a range of things the 
community can produce that are alternatives to what we feel must be 
created, or add-ons that narrowly focus on special use cases
* Matt: Rel-eng sits in the middle of the spin creation process right 
now -- a couple communication breakdowns have happened over time, 
sometimes spin producers didn't know their spin was being built
** Matt: semi-OT -- at some point need to reconsider the question of who 
builds the spins. Does it always have to be Release Engineering?
** Paul: more narrowly aimed spins (FEL, Games, ...) seem to nail their 
use cases quite well
* Top of mind problem seems to be some dependency chains 
(system-config-keyboard), whether or not that is the most serious 
problem or not isn't clear
* '''PAIN POINT IDENTIFIED''': Dependency chain requirements cause 
alternate desktop spins to still pull in a large portion of the GNOME stack.
** '''NEXT STEPS''': Mike will file ticket with FESCo requesting they 
look at dependency chain requirements.  This could be a Fedora 
Engineering Services task.
** Colin willing to look at helping with dependency chain issues
** ''TICKET''': https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/345
* '''NON PAIN POINT''': Spins SIG does feel that resolution processes 
have been working well when they're needed.
* Resources:
** Infrastructure now has the ability to host additional content, 
including spins.  This has been a long time incoming, and needs to be 
implemented and announced, but the capacity is there now.
** Ambassadors who want to pass out specific spins can make requests for 
monetary resources to CommArch, to be evaluated in the scope of media 
requests and budget.
*** The Board is not taking a stance on what medias should be produced 
for any particular event.
* Not sure what to do with feedback from survey work that showed that 
some people don't want the board to help or ask questions about how they 
can help

=== Next Steps & Positive Outcomes ===
# dependency chain requirements
#* https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/345
# hosting space for Spins
#* Each spin should file a request for space with infrastructure
# (tentative) being able to offer AutoQA
#* individual Spins should get involved with QA Team to ensure their 
needs are addressed as well as those of the rest of the Project.
# banners on get.fp.o
#* https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/16
# Update wiki pages for information collected

== Default Offering  ==
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Current_defa...
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Different_de...
* Give feedback to Paul by tomorrow, 2010-03-02
* Paul will send to Board for approval on 2010-03-02

== Topics and plan for next meeting ==
* John/Chris will take up topic of "What is a target audience?"
* Meet next week, 2010-03-08 at 20:00 UTC (3:00pm EST/12:00pm PST)