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China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CAChina Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CAPosted Feb 2, 2010 23:18 UTC (Tue) by redguardtoo (guest, #39215)In reply to: China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA by dkg Parent article: China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA
I don't trust CCP (CNNIC is controlled by CCP) does not mean I am xenophobia.
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China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA Posted Feb 2, 2010 23:54 UTC (Tue) by dkg (subscriber, #55359) [Link] I didn't say being suspicious of the CCP meant that you were xenophobic. I said that the articles sole focus on China was probably a form of xenophobia because it ignores the other threats. My point is that there are bigger questions at stake than just the Chinese gov't's surveillance regime.Focus on the bigger, systemic problem of crappy networked PKI, not on just one of the (likely) abusers.
China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA Posted Feb 3, 2010 6:19 UTC (Wed) by redguardtoo (guest, #39215) [Link]
I get your point.
There must be something wrong in the basic work flow of the authority (or some committee?) who granted the CNNIC root CA.
From my point of view, it is so easy to validate CNNIC's credit. You just grab anyone who can read Chinese from the street. Let him/her google CNNIC to know how average Chinese people think about CNNIC. It won't take more than 5 minutes!
China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA Posted Feb 3, 2010 9:09 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]
Could you state your point more explicitly? I'm not quite sure what answer
you're assuming to your rhetorical question.
E.g. I would think most Chinese people would have either:
a) No opinion, just as 99.99% of people in the West would have no opinion of
b) Approve, on learning it was a Chinese state entity to manage important
The one thing I know about China is that the people there are very patriotic
I wonder though if perhaps you are chinese (and if so, are you mainland or
China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA Posted Feb 3, 2010 11:18 UTC (Wed) by redguardtoo (guest, #39215) [Link]
I *have* said I am a Chinese. Yes, I am from main land China.
My point is if the CNNIC root CA could be easily accepted, maybe the general approval procedure has some flaw. I am expecting some security experts to explain to me on the detail of such procedure.
You analogy of most people in west not knowing IANA or Verisign is inappropriate because you don't get the fact that CNNIC is hated by many Chinese, at least most IT guys, for some good reasons.
China Internet Network Information Center accepted as a Mozilla root CA Posted Feb 3, 2010 12:42 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]
Ok, but can you expand on why?
I know some chinese people quite well, but I don't know any who'd have any clue
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