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No philosophy?No philosophy?Posted Jan 26, 2010 6:30 UTC (Tue) by esr (guest, #14345)In reply to: No philosophy? by coriordan Parent article: Red Hat launches opensource.com
>OSI's attempts to cast off these ideals The implied claim is utter rubbish. The OSI was founded as a continuation of hacker traditions that both include and predate the FSF. About all I have to say to people who consider the FSF the be-all-and-end-all of hacker tradition is that their ignorance is showing. Some remedial study of (at least) the early histories of Unix and the IETF is indicated. A conversation with one of today's BSD hackers might be a good idea, too.
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Different Values Posted Jan 26, 2010 8:17 UTC (Tue) by chromatic (guest, #26207) [Link]
I consider the likelihood that some people who care deeply about freedom (and consider *that* stance pragmatic in the light of Tom Tom, SCO, and BitKeeper, for example) have reservations about a philosophy which keeps score based on how much money it can raise during IPOs and suckle from The Enterprise.
No philosophy? Posted Jan 26, 2010 12:06 UTC (Tue) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link] Of course. I specifically credited the hacker community each time. The free software movement isn't the only source of tradition, but it deserves special mention because it is the subgroup of hackers that did the most to organise, document, and propagate their culture. In contrast, OSI was a checkpoint where ideals, culture, and tradition were told to take a backseat and let business interests take the steering wheel. Businesses loved that idea and we got a load of new best friends (y'know, the sort that don't blink while stabing us in the back, filing amicus briefs telling the Supreme Court that open source thrives *because of* software patents). (I should note that, among companies, Red Hat is one of our community's best allies. They've done great lobbying in the EU, and filed great briefs against software patents in the USA, India, and the EU. ...and they were with us long before the "open source" idea.)
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