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What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes)What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes)Posted Jun 18, 2003 18:20 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)Parent article: What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes)
Forbes takes an extreme right-wing slant both in their "news" articles and in their editorial content; their editor has been a presidential candidate. For business news, anyone who's serious should read something else.
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What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 18, 2003 18:39 UTC (Wed) by zjohnr (guest, #12152) [Link] Forbes may be right-wing, but that doesn't make them de facto a "bad" source of business info. I found the Forbes article superficial, but still interesting.What I'm wondering is if SCO understands what it is in when suing IBM. Especially about something which I believe IBM is VERY sensitive about -- intellectual property. When it comes to internal processes to validate a company's "right" to use a piece of code, IBM takes a back seat to no-one. Unless SCO can prove that they've got IBM dead-to-rights on this, IBM will fight back and deluge SCO with paperwork. The trial could be very interesting ... in a tedious, drawn out, legalistic sort of way. ;-) -irrational john
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Oct 14, 2003 22:50 UTC (Tue) by dwandre (guest, #14296) [Link] zjohnr has it right. I joined IBM while the suit was in progress and under the records retention rule every memo had to be preserved (and I was in the typewriter division). Every year the case lasted generated more mountains of documents. Looking at the IBM discovery request (see links from groklaw) it looks like SCO will need to double their workforce to produce the documents if they still exist. On the otherhand, Boies worked on the IBM defense so he knows what to expect. I just don't see how he expects to win, although he may not have agreed with the decision to sue IBM. He's got to put bread on the table, too.
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 18, 2003 18:47 UTC (Wed) by dbhost (guest, #3461) [Link] What a peculiar comment. Isn't it the leftists that have resorted to the courts to get their ambitions fulfilled when they fail at the legislative approach?
Re: leftists Posted Jun 18, 2003 18:52 UTC (Wed) by Ross (subscriber, #4065) [Link] I was going to make a rebuttal to your remark, but it would have beenway off topic. Let's leave the non-Linux related politics off the message board, don't you think?
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 18, 2003 18:57 UTC (Wed) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link] "Isn't it the leftists that have resorted to the courts to get their ambitions fulfilled when they fail at the legislative approach?"That's how the slander runs. I seem to recall a President who was appointed by the Supreme Court because the votes if counted properly under the law might lead to the opposite conclusion. (In fact, if those that were both punched and had the same candidate's name written in were counted -- as required by state law -- it would have led to the opposite conclusion.) Be careful who you accuse of abusing the courts, it raises specters you would rather have lie still.
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 18, 2003 22:02 UTC (Wed) by ronaldcole (guest, #1462) [Link] Ok, then, I'll step up to the plate and say it: pull your head out. The US president is NOT elected by popular vote. Never has been. Go google for "electoral college" and educate yourself before spreading misinformation as if it were an apt analogy.
[OT] What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 18, 2003 22:06 UTC (Wed) by hazelsct (guest, #3659) [Link] The US president is NOT elected by popular vote.So you're unaware that the slate of Florida delegates to the electoral college IS elected by popular vote? Perhaps it is you who should "pull your head out"...
[OT] What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 19, 2003 6:44 UTC (Thu) by ronaldcole (guest, #1462) [Link] And your statement contradicts mine exactly how? The slates of electors are free to cast their votes according to their conscience. The fact that they generally vote their party pretty much makes a mockery of the Electoral College being a compromise between a popularly elected president and a congressionally elected president. But the US president is still NOT elected by popular vote, but by the votes of the electors in the states.
[OT] What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 19, 2003 14:13 UTC (Thu) by GreyWizard (guest, #1026) [Link] And your statement contradicts mine exactly how? No one has tried to claim that the US president is elected by the popular vote. Try pulling your head out and reading comments before you reply to them.
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 19, 2003 4:06 UTC (Thu) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link] Ok, then, I'll step up to the plate and say it: pull your head out. The US president is NOT elected by popular vote. Never has been. Go google for "electoral college" and educate yourself before spreading misinformation as if it were an apt analogy.Except that ncm did not say that the US president was elected by popular vote. In fact, popular vs. electoral votes wasn't even MENTIONED in ncm's comment. Nor is that issue particularly germane to ncm's argument. So this is simply irrelevant distraction, much like...well, everything you see coming from SCO these days. Or President Bush, for that matter.
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 19, 2003 6:48 UTC (Thu) by ronaldcole (guest, #1462) [Link] He implied that if the Supreme Court hadn't appointed the President, then the popular vote would have produced the opposite result. He's wrong on both counts. Not only didn't the Supreme Court "appoint" the President, but how can he know that the democratic slate of Electors wouldn't have been so appalled at the actions of their party that enough electoral votes would have been cast for Bush to achieve the same result?Simple answer: he can't.
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 19, 2003 14:05 UTC (Thu) by GreyWizard (guest, #1026) [Link] He implied that if the Supreme Court hadn't appointed the President, then the popular vote would have produced the opposite result. No, sorry, he didn't. He implied that if the Surpreme Court hadn't intervened a different set of electors would have been in place and that enough would have chosen Gore to change the outcome. Regardless of whether that's true there is nothing in ncm's post about the popular vote of the nation as a whole (which did favor Gore but doesn't affect the election under present law). Your churlish demand that he search Google for "electoral collage" remains both impolite and irrelevant. And as for your latest witterings, they are wrong on both counts. Not only is there no reasonable chance that Democratic electors in Florida would have voted for Bush (they are partisan flacks who are as likely to be "appalled" by the antics of their party as Republican electors), but this is unrelated to the point ncm was making. That point, since you clearly failed to read the message you replied to, is that conservative interests do indeed run to the courts when it suits them -- a fact you haven't yet been foolish enough to dispute.
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 19, 2003 15:15 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link] Your churlish demand that he search Google for "electoral collage" remains both impolite and irrelevant.Churlish? Impolite? Irrelevant? The post that started this discussion is 90% innuendo, but despite this maybe you where expecting a resonse more along the lines of: "I'm sorry, but despite the fact that I'm a conservative son of a bitch and responsible for war, world poverty, and the depletion of the world's natural resources, could I please take exception to what you just said?" Some templates might be useful for some of us so that we can post more politically correct responses. I mean I'd just hate to be impolite and offend anyone on a Linux message board..
The Theft of the Presidency Posted Jun 22, 2003 3:55 UTC (Sun) by stock (guest, #5849) [Link] watch this one : http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/progs/newsnight/palast.ram and read this chapter : http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=217&row=1 Robert
What SCO Wants, SCO Gets (Forbes) Posted Jun 18, 2003 18:50 UTC (Wed) by lyda (subscriber, #7429) [Link] in fairness, america is a right-wing country. courts all over the country are getting right-wing judges appointed to them. juries are made up of right-wing jurors.i'm not happy about this, but it's kind of a fact at the moment.
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