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Posted Dec 1, 2009 0:31 UTC (Tue) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167)
In reply to: RHEL6 by Felix_the_Mac
Parent article: Between Fedora 12 and 13

Actually Red Hat currently supports a 2.4 series kernel in RHEL 3, and will do so into the middle of next year.

It is possible that Red Hat thinks supporting four releases at once was too much, and has decided, but not yet announced, that it will release RHEL less frequently, but with long phase 1 (new hardware and features) support. This might be a good choice because as the product matures, Microsoft have seen that customers become more and more resistant to upgrading. Rightly or wrongly they think it's an added cost (not a software cost, both Red Hat and Microsoft offer products where you don't pay for the specific version you use - but a training and testing cost) for no value.

So whereas you might have found customers would start using RHEL 4 on some production systems six months after it came out, and were using RHEL 5 within a year, Red Hat may have data that suggests if RHEL 6 was available today, it wouldn't drive any sales until 2011 anyway. So why spend the extra money on engineering? Wait until customers are begging for the new features, right?

Fedora offers them an advantage here. If Microsoft has some trouble that leaves them without even a beta of the new Windows Server for an extra year, they've got no way to put (server) features out there for customers to see. With Fedora, Red Hat gets an opportunity to show the way every six months, which must be good for customer confidence, while at the same time the rapid turnover of Fedora releases minimises ongoing engineering support overhead & makes it worthless for the roles where you might plausibly sell an RHEL license.


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RHEL6

Posted Dec 1, 2009 10:17 UTC (Tue) by miguelzinho (subscriber, #40535) [Link]

Thank you very much! Finally some one who understands that Fedora is a perpetual beta for Red Hat products.

Fedora a beta for RHEL?

Posted Dec 1, 2009 19:19 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link]

Fedora is considered the "upstream" of RHEL... and so far as any "upstream" is a perpetual beta of a "downstream", ok... call it whatever you want. I guess that makes Ubuntu a perpetual beta of Debain? No? Why not?

In any event, there are a large number of differences between Fedora and RHEL. Take the biggest difference is the number of packages. If you want to call Fedora a beta for RHEL, call 1/10th of it a beta for RHEL because the other 9/10ths aren't even part of RHEL. I'm just guessing with those percentages... I haven't actually run the exact package numbers but you get the point.

Fedora a beta for RHEL?

Posted Dec 1, 2009 23:56 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

~ 2500 in RHEL vs ~ 16000 binary packages in Fedora.

Fedora a beta for RHEL?

Posted Dec 3, 2009 5:52 UTC (Thu) by qg6te2 (guest, #52587) [Link]

It should be mentioned that Fedora's EPEL effort provides a large set of extra packages for RHEL.

While these extra packages are not officially part of RHEL, they considerably increase the number of packages directly usable on RHEL.

Fedora a beta for RHEL?

Posted Dec 3, 2009 0:21 UTC (Thu) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link]

No, Debian *unstable* is a perpetual beta of Ubuntu.

Kinda.

Fedora a beta for RHEL?

Posted Dec 4, 2009 19:32 UTC (Fri) by misiu_mp (guest, #41936) [Link]

No, debian unstable is perpetual beta of debian stable.
Ubuntu is just perpetual beta.
(evil me)

RHEL6

Posted Dec 3, 2009 20:52 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

We're not that rare.

RHEL6

Posted Dec 3, 2009 20:59 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

"""
It is possible that Red Hat thinks supporting four releases at once was too much, and has
decided, but not yet announced, that it will release RHEL less frequently,
"""

The proper way to have made that change would have been to make it effective for RHEL7.
They had already promised 18-24 month releases to RHEL5 customers. And, in fact, are still
claiming an 18-24 month release cycle in their current sales literature. Even as they blithely
disregard it:

http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/rhel/rhel5_overview.pdf

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