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State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Mitchell Baker has put up the annual state of Mozilla posting. Mozilla remains nearly unique among free software projects in its ability to complain about the performance of its investment portfolio; the overall picture, though, says that things are going quite well. "The number of people using Firefox on a daily basis increased from 28 million in 2006 to 49 million in 2007. In 2008 we moved up to 75 million daily users. As of November 2009 the daily number has grown to 110 million, bringing the total number of users to approximately 330 million people."
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State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 23, 2009 17:32 UTC (Mon) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

I love Mozillas mission (a free internet) and will continue to Firefox although it has good and bad releases (atm my Ubuntu 9.10 version crashes at least once a week)

I would love to see Mozillas reach expand to web apps(or maybe a XUL/Web mix). I don't mind Google that much, but I trust Mozilla a whole lot more. Maybe a Mozilla online desktop would be a good idea (especially in light of the advent of ChromeOS)

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 23, 2009 20:50 UTC (Mon) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

Have you tried a firefox binary built by mozilla instead of the one built by your distribution vendor to see if the crash problems exist in the upstream binary?

-jef

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 23, 2009 21:22 UTC (Mon) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

Not yet (the last few days have been quiet) but I will try the official build next time a crash happens. The crashes are totally silent .. Firefox just exists and there is no bug reporting tool popping up. My guess is that Flash is to blame, but the official build is good idea.

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 24, 2009 3:09 UTC (Tue) by dougsk (subscriber, #25954) [Link]

>Mozilla online desktop

Not exactly the same, but I fondly recall building penzilla the oss project name for OEone's Homebase product.

The last commit was over six years ago. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pendesktop/

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 24, 2009 12:22 UTC (Tue) by alankila (subscriber, #47141) [Link]

I think the "free internet"-mission is serviced by any of the other free browsers as well. In fact, I experience mild distaste with the mission and its slogans: "take back the web", or smugly self-congratulatory "you just made the web better". Actually, I find the webkit-based browsers to be better in every respect save for one: support for firefox extensions. Firefox's overall badness is offseted by existence of some great extensions like firebug.

To summarize: I don't think it's necessary to support Mozilla in particular in lieu of any of the other free browsers, some which seem to have left Firefox behind in at least Linux and 64-bit CPU support. I'm actually pleased that even the 'fox has some serious competition these days.

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 24, 2009 13:54 UTC (Tue) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

Sure, current Firefox is second rate in some respects. Linux support is lacking. Other browsers are faster or more secure.
_But_ if you want your Google searches to generate monetary contribution to free software (Bugzilla, Theora etc.) then you have to use Firefox AFAIK.

For me that alone is a good reason to tolerate Firefox few shortcomings.

revenue for Free Software

Posted Nov 24, 2009 17:47 UTC (Tue) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link]

Can't you just add "client=firefox-a" to the search config in your browser?

revenue for Free Software

Posted Nov 24, 2009 23:09 UTC (Tue) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

IDK, I could. But I guess we need someone from Mozilla or Google to confirm that.
I personally think Google needs all checkboxes checked before they pay someone else. So I would need another client id etc and even then I couldn't be 100% sure.

But I think Google employees won't be allowed to answer, but someone from Mozilla might. I'll give that a try.

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 26, 2009 8:48 UTC (Thu) by alankila (subscriber, #47141) [Link]

I'm sure that it makes more sense to donate a small sum to Mozilla, or whoever you prefer, than use the software solely because there is a benefit to Mozilla associated for it. In 2007 Google paid some $65M and Firefox had some 50M users, thus your continued usage is worth about $1.3 / year.

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 26, 2009 10:11 UTC (Thu) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

Trust me, on the bell curve that is the average I am on the very right hand side, so it is a lot more than what you are suggesting.
And besides I still think Firefox is one of the best choices for browsing on a 32bit Linux machine. Chrome might be better with its new and well done extentions, but atm I am not willing to switch over to a Google product for various reasons.

State of Mozilla and 2008 Financial Statements

Posted Nov 26, 2009 18:34 UTC (Thu) by alankila (subscriber, #47141) [Link]

Like what, $5? I have no idea what the conditions are, so for all I know it could be that all users are considered identical, or it could be the number of google searches made, or mixture of both, or something else entirely.

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