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Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

Posted Nov 19, 2009 1:54 UTC (Thu) by tonyblackwell (subscriber, #43641)
Parent article: Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

My first look into the Fedora community. In response to user concerns on this issue, the comments from those I think may be senior Fedora people to the users include:
"I don't care"
"There's nothing to discuss here"
"Your rationale appears to be missing"
"before you complain too much"
"You either trust the Fedora repos or you don't"
"It's not insecure"
"the default policy may not be to your taste"

Really gives the user a warm welcome feeling!

I'm used to respectful, relevant and issue-related discussion in the Mandriva bug reporting environment, even if I made some error in having reported an apparent issue.


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Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

Posted Nov 19, 2009 2:45 UTC (Thu) by linuxjacques (subscriber, #45768) [Link]

I was reading those replies from the Redhat employees and I kept thinking
"are you people all insane?"

It seems that the best solution for now is 'yum erase PackageKit'

Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

Posted Nov 19, 2009 12:34 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

How about thinking:

"Gee these guys may have a point, let me try to figure out why they think
they way they do even if they might be wrong ultimately"

Because they actually do have a point and they actually are not wrong about
it.

Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

Posted Nov 19, 2009 11:52 UTC (Thu) by Tet (subscriber, #5433) [Link]

Yep, that's the real problem here. Not that it was a bad decision (which it plainly was), but that:
  1. A change this significant was slipped in without any real discussion.
  2. RH employees are being completely dismissive of the concerns of the community.

Fedora 12 lets unprivileged users install packages

Posted Nov 19, 2009 23:54 UTC (Thu) by sbakker (subscriber, #58443) [Link]

My first look into the Fedora community. In response to user concerns on this issue, the comments from those I think may be senior Fedora people to the users include [...]

Have we been reading the same thread? AFAICT, there was really only one person thinking there was absolutely nothing wrong with the change. What I saw from a few senior Fedora contributors and several Red Hat employees was more of a "this should have been communicated better", "we need to re-think this" and "perhaps we should revert this".

At least the release notes now have a big fat warning in them :-)

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