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Fedora 12 released with over 550 updates waitingFedora 12 released with over 550 updates waitingPosted Nov 17, 2009 20:28 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659)In reply to: Fedora 12 released with over 550 updates waiting by jspaleta Parent article: Fedora 12 released
I was aware that new packages added later (not in Everything) are placed in updates. That is misleading. If you don't like that, change it.
The fact still remains that there are several thousand updates. Does the average user have that many packages installed where a significant percentage of total updates would apply to them, probably not.
On my system, and I don't have any devel stuff installed, it is fairly common to have a few hundred megabytes worth of updates a month. That's not dialup friendly.
I haven't used a dialup modem since 1998 and I'd be curious how many modems you can buy today would even work with Linux to begin with.
Fedora has a lot of updates. That is a fact. That's something I like about Fedora... and one of the reasons I use it for desktop stuff. I maintain my own local mirror but I don't necessarily recommend other folks do that. I maintain a personal Fedora remix as well as build OpenVZ OS Templates... so I do use it quite a bit.
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Fedora 12 released with over 550 updates waiting Posted Nov 17, 2009 20:38 UTC (Tue) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
We don't have a clear view how the package churn translates into client update churn in any real sense. As I said before, I could probably generate a much clearer picture of typical update usage patterns if a couple of mirror admins from would voluntarily work with me so I could data mine their activity logs to produce an aggregate look at the update repository utilization.
-jef
Fedora 12 released with over 550 updates waiting Posted Nov 17, 2009 21:32 UTC (Tue) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
As an additional follow up... on my f10 system .. i have 1814 unique binary packagenames installed... 185 are -devel subpackages.
The intersection between the 1815 packages I have installed and the 7173 available updates is 823.
775 out of 823 are updates to packages available at release time
So taking this system as typical... and I'm always loath to actually do that. The thought of myself as a representative user of any technology is disturbing on many levels. But for the moment....assuming my system is typical...
I've got ~11.5% of available updates installed by package count (not by package size). 99.5% of my installed updates are true updates in the sense that that a version of the package was available at F10 release.
I probably go back and do the same sort of analysis on my F11 system tonight and do a delta rpm bandwidth savings analysis. To get a better sense of what really is typical I'll need to datamine mirror activity logs.
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