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The notmuch mail clientThe notmuch mail clientPosted Nov 17, 2009 17:40 UTC (Tue) by drag (subscriber, #31333)In reply to: The notmuch mail client by rfunk Parent article: The notmuch mail client
I used to buy into the superiority of IMAP as a given, but lately I've
decided that downloading the email and processing it on the client-side is
actually a good way to do things. Just because it's a pain to have to log
into a remote system to do fairly mundane things combined with the lack of a
really good GUI Imap client for Linux.
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The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 17, 2009 17:58 UTC (Tue) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link]
Um, nothing about IMAP prevents client-side processing. In fact that's
exactly the use I was talking about. http://software.complete.org/software/projects/show/offli...
Not to mention that fetchmail has explicitly recommended IMAP over POP
Hooray for offlineimap Posted Nov 17, 2009 18:06 UTC (Tue) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link] I use offlineimap, mairix, and mutt, but just pulled notmuch and will try that too. Offlineimap works great for the sync up part -- I'd rather do an explicit sync and move stuff around in local folders in between syncs.(Thinking about re-running spam filters at IMAP time, to handle newly-caught bad Received: IP addresses.)
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 17, 2009 18:12 UTC (Tue) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
Yes, but when I put lots of effort into making custom rules and sorting
stuff then that does not get translated to any other client.
If I want to make, say, a mailing list filter I have to do it on the server
It's all a PITA and things should be better then this.
Not to also mention that email clients on "Desktop Linux" suck. Evolution is
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 17, 2009 18:21 UTC (Tue) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link]
Sieve is supposed to make it easier for clients to mess with server-side
filters, but unfortunately support for it isn't quite universal. http://sieve.info/
I'm not sure what you include as "features typical users expect nowadays",
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 18, 2009 2:23 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
> I'm not sure what you include as "features typical users expect nowadays",
> but I find Kmail to be quite featureful, and there certainly others.
Well MAPI support would be a big one.
The notmuch mail client
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 18, 2009 11:26 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
I would normally expect 'typical users' to mean 'home desktop users', in which case MAPI support is irrelevant - who runs their own Exchange server?
I presume you are thinking rather about the sort of features that might encourage large-scale corporate deployment?
I kind of think this is leaving the realm of mail clients though. MAPI clients (without using nasty hacks, are there any other than Outlook?) aren't really the same thing as mail clients to my mind.
While Outlook is *technically* a mail client, it's about the worst you're ever likely to find (with the exception of Evolution once you start paying attention to things like performance and stability), but it's not really meant to be its function, per se, just one of its features. (It's interesting that Outlook does everything badly - but it does several things all together, which makes people happy)
Jack of many trades Posted Nov 18, 2009 19:00 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] I use it at work, and "happy" is not the word. "Constantly bothered by it, but not sufficiently annoyed to actively fight it" is more like it. And the bloody calendar is not that bad if you have, say, 10--20 meetings a week. Yeah, my life sucks :(Many people fail to understand the fundamental truth behind your wise statement: if your software doesn't do X, corporate buyers will not even consider it. It can be badly done, not scale and generally be poorly engineered, but do whatever they want it to do and suddenly you are eligible. Sounds reasonable, right? The vast majority of people are not able to see beyond the "what" and into the "how".
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 18, 2009 2:52 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
Oh, and thanks for bring up seive. That's something I've been wanting for a
while now.
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 18, 2009 13:14 UTC (Wed) by lab (subscriber, #51153) [Link]
"Evolution is the only one that has the features that typical users expect nowadays"
You don't like Thunderbird?
The notmuch mail client Posted Nov 18, 2009 23:23 UTC (Wed) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
> You don't like Thunderbird?
No support for Exchange. Cannot edit LDAP address books, AFAIK.
linux GUI IMAP client Posted Nov 17, 2009 18:55 UTC (Tue) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
take a look at mulberry http://mulberrymail.com/
it does a good job of properly using IMAP (including sieve for server-side filtering), although most of the code is old so it may not have all of 'the features that people expect today'
it was released as opensource a year or so ago, but compiling it has been a horrible pain so very little progress has been made in that time. however in the last week or two there have been a lot of commits to SVN that make it much easier to compile, so I expect a lot more changes to start happening now.
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