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A report from pgCon 2013
Little things that matter in language design
That is what would matter to me most long-term, because if I can control the
kernel I can control everything.
For example I know that Nokia uses proprietary systems for controlling the
GSM radio stuff, OpenGL, and battery management.. but the wifi is open
source and all that.
I know enough to be dangerous and install a cross-compiler tool chain on
Debian and build whatever userland I want for ARM platform..
so I want the system with the least amount of proprietary BS.
Android Dev Phone 2 available
Posted Nov 16, 2009 17:36 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
Posted Nov 16, 2009 17:46 UTC (Mon) by Cato (subscriber, #7643)
I'd be interested to see a comparison on driver openness (and that of any important userspace elements that talk to hardware, e.g. power management) between Android and Maemo/N900.
Posted Nov 16, 2009 21:30 UTC (Mon) by niner (subscriber, #26151)
Posted Nov 17, 2009 0:50 UTC (Tue) by erinnlooneytriggs (subscriber, #24665)
Posted Nov 17, 2009 14:25 UTC (Tue) by jamesh (guest, #1159)
This doesn't make it a bad thing for free GSM stacks though: if the GSM stack is only accessed via the oFono API, it should be easier to plug in a replacement one rather than having to reverse engineer the interface of the proprietary stack.
Posted Nov 17, 2009 1:29 UTC (Tue) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
So it's not going to be open any time soon. It'll be up to hackers to open
things up, I believe. People like Nokia are going to be so heavily
contracted and NDA'd that they couldn't breath a word on how any of the
stuff really works. Once all the secrets are out in the public eye then
things should move quickly. There is DRM and people (and businesses) are
foolish to trust in the security of the encryption schemes used in these
They depend on a lot of "omg this is telephony AND radio and that is too
elite for you to get; trust the experts*" type theater antics and
security-by-obscurity to keep things cheap, keep customers fooled, and
* (people that work for above-mentioned major corporations)
oFono is very interesting, of course. The GPLv2 licensing is promising,
So is OpenBTS. Different sides of the same coin, I expect.
Posted Nov 17, 2009 7:08 UTC (Tue) by Cato (subscriber, #7643)
Posted Nov 17, 2009 7:19 UTC (Tue) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
that was eventually dealt with and the fix was to require a very small portion of the phone to be certified. I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar result eventually for this.
the question is how small the certified piece can be.
Posted Nov 17, 2009 8:14 UTC (Tue) by Cato (subscriber, #7643)
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