Hudson: Corporate lobbying against free software
As well as the relatively malicious falsehoods being perpetrated against those specific library projects, there are also vague allegations about open source in general – from accusations of Red Hat being 'proprietary' to the highly entertaining argument that the US Department of Defense 'restrict the use of open source software for fear that it could pose a terrorist opportunity'". (Thanks to Colin Campbell for pointing us at the WikiLeaks page).
Posted Oct 30, 2009 22:26 UTC (Fri)
by ncm (guest, #165)
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Posted Oct 31, 2009 1:21 UTC (Sat)
by brianomahoney (guest, #6206)
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So, in private industry, outside the buyable CIOs, and there are not to many of those, in the first rank, wordwide the benefits and risks of FOSS are now well understood, even though Meverou Nelie Kroes will shortly retire, the Regulators, bidable though they tend to be now, at least, understand the basic point.
Put another way, the genie is out of the bottle. no one now gets fired for buying Linux, but vide LSE, they DO get fired for buying M$+Accenture, if it fails, as it always does. See the latest US-DOD advice. That is enough to STFU the PHB brigade.
So the entire issue turns on good information and freedom of choice.
FOSS is well past the tipping point, and the brighter non-nerds begin to understand why:
Voting has to be OS
Med Records need to follow Vets System
A secure desktop saves a shitload of money
Migration to non local platforms, Browser/FireFox/Chrome Chrome OS, Android, Maemo is happening, destroying all the years of M$ adopt, embrace, extend on the desktop
Java, and C# and their libraries become margenelised by Python and the cloud
Old game over.
Posted Nov 4, 2009 9:54 UTC (Wed)
by sylvain.nahas (guest, #61022)
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Thanks,
Posted Oct 31, 2009 5:57 UTC (Sat)
by freemars (subscriber, #4235)
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Free as in kittens vs. Free as in Speech.
Why does THIS meme belong in a discussion of TCO? Because if you start thinking about it you might start wondering what kind of 'ownership' we're arguing about. After all, it isn't YOU who owns the software. You're merely leasing it from the vendor. The 'ownership' that's going on here is that the vendor owns a bit of you.
So what is the Total Cost of being Owned?
It might be a price jump the next time you start to negotiate a contract.
It might be vendor practicing 'self help' -- remotely disabling its software on your machines.
It might be the data YOU entered over several years turning into irretrievable garbage -- lost to some propitiatory and undocumented file format. This can happen if the vendor goes out of business or if the vendor simply decides to go in new direction.
Vendors want to talk about TCO? Good. Let's do JUST THAT.
Later in the paper Abram tries to spin "SaaS" into "Software as a Solution" -- huh? I guess you can't say "software as a service" because that might remind you -- once again -- you don't own anything. Similarly Abram recasts "caveat emptor" as "let the installer beware."
Posted Oct 31, 2009 12:49 UTC (Sat)
by zotz (guest, #26117)
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So what is the Total Cost of being Owned?"
This is a sweet point. Another angle might be to ask, when you spend what they say for their solution, what you actually own, if anything. And if you don't own the software at this price, how much would it cost to actually own it?
all the best,
drew
Posted Nov 1, 2009 15:42 UTC (Sun)
by dark (guest, #8483)
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First of all, you don't get a free kitten. You have to pay for the kitten. But you don't get ownership of the kitten, just a license to take care of it. Ownership of the kitten remains with the vendor.
The vendor does not guarantee the health of the kitten. If the kitten gets sick, you may return it for possible replacement or refund, at the vendor's option. You may not take it to an independent veterinarian or attempt to treat the kitten yourself.
You are the only one licensed to pet the kitten. You may not let anyone else pet the kitten. You may designate one other person as a Backup Petter, as long as you ensure that you and the Backup Petter never pet the kitten at the same time.
You must buy food for the kitten. You may only use food supplied by the kitten vendor. If the kitten vendor chooses to no longer supply food for this model of kitten, you must let the kitten starve.
Failure to follow all of these rules will result in heavy fines and possible criminal prosecution.
Alternately, you can get a free kitten from the free kitten project.
Posted Nov 1, 2009 23:18 UTC (Sun)
by allesfresser (guest, #216)
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Posted Nov 2, 2009 18:41 UTC (Mon)
by justme (guest, #19967)
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Our best counter to the kitten argument is that the whole point is for the software to be a boon, and we allow the user to do whatever they have to to make their software a boon, even if they wish to fire us as their vet, groomer, trainer, and breeder.
Posted Oct 31, 2009 18:54 UTC (Sat)
by cxtuttle (guest, #59713)
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Posted Nov 3, 2009 23:32 UTC (Tue)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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Cheers,
Posted Nov 1, 2009 13:32 UTC (Sun)
by bawjaws (guest, #56952)
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I couldn't help but note that, rather than the buyer losing out, in this historical case it was the
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laidlaw_v._Organ
Posted Nov 9, 2009 4:24 UTC (Mon)
by golding (guest, #32795)
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Hudson: Corporate lobbying against free software
they have no case."
The OS FUD war
The OS FUD war
Sylvain
Hudson: Corporate lobbying against free software
Hudson: Corporate lobbying against free software
I'm always surprised when they try the kitten argument. It doesn't work out so well for the proprietary kitten vendor. Let's see:
The kitten thing
The kitten thing
The kitten thing
Hudson: Corporate lobbying against free software
There were running Dynix for 15 years and got a notice from the vendor that it would no longer be supported. So they did some research and settled on Koha. They hired PTFS of Bethesda, MD for implementation and some open source development. This cost for the development was split with the East Brunswick, NJ library which rolled out Koha in July 2009. I believe the development consisted of integration with a self-checkout system and a phone messaging system which calls up to remind you of overdue books.
The only other library using Koha in NJ is Highland Park wich was done in September 2008. Since Middletown is the 2nd busiest independent library, I have little doubt that other NJ libraries would adopt a similar system in the future. So yeah, these fellows should be worried. I don't think Librarians will be so easily fooled by this brochure.
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Wol
Caveat Emptor - Buyer Beware!
historical anecdote on the concept of Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) in US law.
customer who had the more up to date grasp on the situation and it was the vendor who was still
working under outdated assumptions that no longer held.
Hudson: Corporate lobbying against free software
Perhaps if the FOSS community removed permission for SirsiDynix to use any FOSS powered networks (probably crippling them) they may indeed find FOSS beneficial after all.