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Debian switching to upstart

Posted Sep 6, 2009 23:01 UTC (Sun) by k8to (subscriber, #15413)
Parent article: Debian switching to upstart

I'm not a fan. This will make troubleshooting much more difficult.

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Posted Sep 7, 2009 0:01 UTC (Mon) by sbergman27 (subscriber, #10767) [Link]

According to the article, the current boot process is broken beyond repair. Troubleshooting doesn't get any harder than that.

I would say that this will make troubleshooting *easier*. Especially since it is a simple config option to tell Upstart whether to allow concurrent operations, or to serialize the entire process.

Debian switching to upstart

Posted Sep 16, 2009 18:47 UTC (Wed) by oak (guest, #2786) [Link]

Parallelism will make things harder to debug because then there's more
chance for timing related issues (-> whether something works, differs from
machine to machine). Besides switching to Upstart, the race conditions
exposed by parallelism need to be fixed.

One can get from Upstart scripts a graph of how the things are started
which helps a bit on understanding how things work.