By Jake Edge
September 1, 2009
While trademarks are often lumped together with copyrights and
patents—under the poorly termed "intellectual property"
umbrella—trademarks are quite different. One of those differences is
that a trademark must be actively enforced, at least under US law, or the
mark holder risks losing it. The Fedora community is currently
discussing a license to allow community members to use the Fedora
trademarks, while still protecting Red Hat's ability to defend the mark
against those who would misuse it. But, requiring a signed license agreement
in order for a community web site to use Fedora trademarks—on the site or
in the domain name—seems heavy-handed to some.
Christoph Wickert brought up some
concerns with the trademark license agreement (TLA) on the
fedora-advisory-board mailing list. He was commenting on an earlier
revision of the agreement, which has since been updated
as a result of the conversation. One of the more controversial aspects of
the agreement is that license termination requires that the domain
registration be turned over to Red Hat:
The license to use the Licensor's Trademarks will cease immediately upon
the termination or expiration of this Agreement. On termination or
expiration of the License, the Licensee agrees that the ownership of the
Domain Name(s) automatically transfers to Licensor and Licensee will take
all steps necessary, including working with domain name registrars and
registries as necessary, to ensure that the legal ownership and control of
the Domain Name(s) is expeditiously transferred to Licensor or a party of
its choosing. Licensee agrees to remove any Web Pages content immediately
if in Licensor's sole discretion such removal is warranted.
The TLA allows either party to terminate the agreement
"for any reason at any time upon thirty (30) days prior notice in
writing to the other party" in section 3(a), or, in section 3(c),
with no notice in the event of a legal claim against the site. Because of
the domain transfer requirement, Wickert was concerned that it could
lead to domain hijacking:
So even if the licensee follows all the terms of the TLA and the logo
usage guidelines, Red Hat can terminate the agreement for (a) no reason
and (c) even without notice at any time. If they do, they automatically
become owner of the licensees domain. This is a legal way of hijacking
the domain with all it's contents, all it's reputation and all the work
that was put into it. This just isn't fair.
It should be noted that the TLA does not require that the contents of the
website be handed over. Changes to the content may be required if the
license is terminated in order to remove the trademarked items, but the
contents would still be the property of the web site owner. Wickert's
statement to that effect
was simply a misunderstanding of the TLA.
Wickert also sees problems in the indemnification clause. By
indemnifying Red Hat against various claims, without any kind
of cap, he is worried that "a person could be bankrupt [for] the
rest of his life even if he didn't damage Red Hat or Fedora in any
way". In the end, he concludes that the TLA is not something he can
recommend for others to sign, which is "a shame".
Fedora
project leader Paul Frields responded at
length to Wickert's concerns, noting:
But Red Hat isn't interested in using this section to unfairly deprive
community members of the ability to create community web sites. If
that was the case, there'd be no reason to create an agreement in the
first place. In fact, there'd have been no reason to update our
trademark guidelines at all to allow domain name use by the community!
The agreement gives Red Hat a way to be very liberal in permitting
community members to use the Fedora trademarks on personally owned
sites to help spread Fedora effectively worldwide.
Another concern was the specific requirements for how the trademarks needed
to be used and identified on a site covered by the TLA. Richard Körber complained that those requirements were too
restrictive, leaving his site at risk because of minor violations:
Now when I take the TLA literally, then Red Hat would be allowed to terminate
the TLA immediately if I just forgot the trademark symbol on a very single
"first instance" of "Fedora".
Körber concluded that the barrier was just too high: "Frankly, I
would rather drop the domain or close down the entire site, before
I would sign the TLA". Robert Scheck, who was asked to sign the
original TLA back in March, agreed with
Körber's conclusion. But, Luis Villa noted that, at some level, the existence of
the agreement doesn't change anything:
In the meantime, it is silly to talk about shutting down your domain
or 'extinguishing community' because of this agreement. If you're
using the Fedora mark in a domain name, Red Hat/Fedora can already
take it from you via ICANN. They're virtually guaranteed to win that
case. If they want, they can almost certainly go far beyond that,
using the rest of trademark law to shut down your website, not just
take the domain. Bottom line: even if you never sign the agreement-
even if the agreement had never been written- you'd still be at their
mercy when using the mark. All that unpleasantness is still there.
There is a larger issue as well. Dimitris Glezos worries about the barrier created by requiring
a signed agreement:
Right now we're putting obstacles and red-tape to excited community
members. But these are the people who power our own community, these
are the people who represent Fedora in conferences, local
universities, at their jobs.
Glezos argues that any miscreants are not going to sign the agreement
anyway, so requiring the TLA just makes it harder for those who want to
help spread Fedora. Part of the problem is that the TLA is a legal
document, so anyone considering signing it should either be very
comfortable with what it means, or, as was suggested in the thread, consult
a lawyer. That just creates an additional barrier as Wickert points out: "Is Red Hat really expecting their community members to
pay for a lawyer if they want to contribute? That would be
ridiculous."
Frields agrees: "If I
thought that this process required people to go get attorneys I'd
agree it's an utter failure." The underlying problem, though, is
the need for active enforcement of trademarks. By licensing community
members to use Fedora trademarks, Red Hat can still pursue other,
unlicensed users—some of whom may be using those marks in a way that
is detrimental to the project. Furthermore, engineers trying to solve
legal problems may not be the best approach, Frields said:
But just as I wouldn't expect an
attorney to figure out how to debug kernel problems, I wouldn't expect
us on this list to be able to debug a legal agreement. However, we
definitely can *report* problems and help in the testing. Both
activities are important, just as they are in our project when we deal
with code.
As it turns out, those bug reports did reach someone who can help: Pamela Chestek,
a trademark attorney who works for Red Hat. She had a lengthy response to the various questions
and problems that had been raised in the thread. Chestek started by trying
to allay fears
that there was a Red Hat agenda behind the TLA:
It's important for you to know that when
I do work on behalf of Fedora, my only responsibility is to do what's best
for Fedora. The agreement is intended to protect the collective interest of
the Fedora Project and community as a whole. You may not like how the
agreement affects you as an individual, and you may disagree that the
decisions accomplish the goal. But Red Hat has no hidden agenda and the
only consideration when making decisions is Fedora's best interest.
In addition, she went point by point through the issues that had been
raised. To start with, she explained the reasoning behind clause 3(a),
which allowed Red Hat to terminate the license at will, noting that it
allowed the Fedora community more flexibility should it decide to change
the Fedora name at some point. But, she said, "Because this has been so controversial, though,
we can forgo the flexibility and eliminate this basis for
termination". The current version of the agreement now reflects
that change.
While Chestek's explanation of the domain transfer requirement still may
not sit well with some, it does at least explain why it exists:
It would be exceptionally damaging to the Fedora
Project if a domain name that was previously used for the betterment of the
project fell into the hands of wrongdoers and was used in a way harmful to
Fedora. It would even be damaging if people were used to visiting a
particular site for Fedora info but that site just wasn't there anymore,
because we would have lost touch with community members and they might
think less of Fedora because of it. It's just not in the best interest of
the Fedora Project to let that happen.
On the indemnification clause, Chestek explained that it was there to ensure
fairness for both sides. In any legal action that was brought against the
site for content or behavior that had nothing to do with Red Hat, the site
owner would be responsible, but "if the only reason you are in the
lawsuit is because you are using the Fedora trademark, Red Hat has to pay
the whole amount. That seems fair."
She also addressed the issue of
minor problems with how the trademarks were used on the site noting that
the wording requires a "material breach" of the agreement.
Chestek pointed out that the trademark
guidelines were included by reference in the agreement, "but it would take a flagrant disregard for the Guidelines before
it would be considered a 'material' breach". Even if that were to
happen, there is a cure provision that would give a site owner seven days
to address a problem that Red Hat notified them about.
Overall, Chestek covered the main legal (as opposed to philosophical)
issues that were brought up. She clearly listened to the suggestions and
complaints, and made changes where she thought it appropriate. The
interaction displayed is very different than the sometimes lofty—and
unapproachable—position that lawyers tend to occupy. By engaging the
community in its normal communication forums, Chestek is well on the way to
heading off some serious unhappiness amongst some in the community.
There may still be those who disagree with the TLA, philosophically or
because of the language it contains, but, at the very least, everyone
should understand the reasoning behind it. Free software projects using
trademarks is controversial; we have seen Mozilla also wrestle with the
problem and are likely to see other projects do so in the future. It
is in a project's best interest to ensure that something called
Fedora (or Firefox) is, indeed, the "real McCoy" and not some
malware-afflicted knock-off. How exactly that is done will likely
evolve over time. Villa sees some hope in the distance:
Look, I'm not a big fan of this trademark agreement; I think it is
probably overkill and certainly reflects a centralized view of
trademark that is harmful to how we operate as a peer production
community. If I had my way Fedora (and Mozilla, etc., etc.) would
radically reinvent how they license their marks. But that is a subject
for another day, because it is complex and will require many months or
years of lawyering to get completely right, and that is even if other
lawyers agreed with me- which most don't!
Various projects have different ways of approaching the trademark issue.
Mozilla has a trademark
policy that does not require a signed agreement for using its
trademarks on a web site, but does have a license
[PDF] for using the trademarks in domain names. That license has much
of the same content as the Fedora TLA, including transferring the domain
if the license is terminated. Other projects, like Linux, have a different
strategy: sublicensing the mark
for use in other trademarks, but considering most other uses to be "fair
use"—though still subject to proper trademark attribution.
Because trademarks have to be actively, and not selectively, enforced,
there needs to be a clear delineation as to what is allowed, and what isn't.
Whether it
truly requires a signed license agreement is an open question, but clearly
Red Hat lawyers think it is safer to do things that way.
One alternative is for
the mark holder to disallow any use by third parties—a much worse
outcome.
While it may be distasteful to have to sign some kind of
agreement, it may also be the only workable solution that will satisfy Red
Hat, which, after all, does own the trademarks. It will be
interesting to see how other projects—particularly those backed by a
large company—handle the trademark issue down the road.
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