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Posted Aug 28, 2009 18:06 UTC (Fri) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510)
Posted Aug 28, 2009 20:48 UTC (Fri) by hypatiadotca (guest, #60478)
The reason I your earlier statements about putting women in this position problematic is that you're basically tailgating on a particularly shitty way that women are socialized - to take responsibility for other people's feelings at the expense of any of our own, to mediate, to avoid conflict, to have poor interpersonal boundaries. These are useful forms of social conditioning for this particular purpose, yes, but they are also frustrating ones to see perpetuated as an expected role for women.
I realize this is a bit meta, I hope it makes sense :) Fundamentally, it's socialized behaviour rather than actual skill, and that's problematic.
Posted Aug 28, 2009 21:13 UTC (Fri) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510)
Is it not possible for a woman to do what I'm asking while maintaining internal strength? I see it as an area in which women often excel and something very powerful that they bring to the table as managers.
Posted Aug 29, 2009 11:25 UTC (Sat) by Skud (guest, #59840)
Posted Aug 29, 2009 17:29 UTC (Sat) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510)
Posted Aug 31, 2009 13:27 UTC (Mon) by Skud (guest, #59840)
Posted Aug 31, 2009 13:26 UTC (Mon) by Skud (guest, #59840)
As an adult, and particularly since my mid 20s, I've made a very serious effort to try and gain some social skills. It didn't come naturally to me, and I had to do it painstakingly and with lots of errors. I know other geek women who've done the same; one friend of mine treats it as a process of exploration and debugging, for example. It is absolutely possible for most people to do this (I concede that there are a small number who can't), and I don't see why men should be exempted from this.
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