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Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:00 UTC (Thu) by Skud (guest, #59840)
In reply to: Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really?? by jordanb
Parent article: FSF to host a mini-summit on Women in Free Software

What? No, that can't be right. What I want to know is why there isn't Flash support in Debian.


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Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:24 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link]

The program he pointed out does support Flash. Not as well as the version from Adobe, yet.

Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:28 UTC (Thu) by Skud (guest, #59840) [Link]

I don't think that's true. I think the problem is that Debian doesn't have Flash support. Why don't we address that first?

(Do I need to put emoticons here to make this clearer? Would ";)" help?)

Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:46 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link]

:-)

Well, I would swear that when I ran gnash as a mozilla plugin, I saw the not-HTML menus and animations that were supposed to use flash. Just slowly, and using a lot of memory.

Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Posted Sep 6, 2009 8:09 UTC (Sun) by mdz@debian.org (subscriber, #14112) [Link]

Bruce, if you read the past few messages carefully, I think you'll find that
Skud was making an analogy, mirroring the ignorance, and unwillingness to
listen, which is so often displayed by men when this subject comes up.

Your line of argument sounds, to someone with a working knowledge of
feminism, just as absurd as Skud's line of questioning about Debian.

With apologies for spoiling the joke by spelling it out...

Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??

Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:34 UTC (Thu) by jordanb (guest, #45668) [Link]

Q: Why isn't there flash support in Debian?

A: There is! The GNU Gnash player is installed by default, and it supports the Flash file format. Unfortunatly, it's not 100% complete in its support yet, but progress is being made.

Q: Why isn't Adobe's proprietary Flash player distributed on Debian media, such that it is installed by default?

A: You'd have to ask Adobe about this. Their licensing terms forbid it.

Q: Why doesn't Debian provide an installer that fetches Adobe Flash Player from adobe.com?

A: It does. The package is called flashplugin-nonfree.

Q: Why is flashplugin-nonfree in 'contrib' instead of 'main'?

A: Because it relies on non-free software, which prevents it from going in 'main' per the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

Q: I don't care about the DFSG. Why isn't installing packages from 'contrib' enabled by default on my debian system?

A: Because when asked, during installation, you said that the 'contrib' repository should not be automatically enabled for you.

Hope that clears things up. ;)

Debian

Posted Aug 28, 2009 5:00 UTC (Fri) by njs (guest, #40338) [Link]

I saw a web page that says you just have to log in as root and go to adobe.com and download it.

But I haven't tried yet because I keep getting errors about my video card. I tried changing the permissions but it didn't help. What kinds of idiot designed this? It's a *brand-new* nvidia g10000, it works fine in Windows. Linux sucks :-(

I think I'm going to try this thing my friend told me about called "automatix", do you know it?

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