Maybe it would be better if some of you stuck with LWN instead of being on some girrls-only list. If you want to be believed, being there counts.
I am on one women-only list out of dozens. Do you seriously believe I (we) are active participants in open source without being on mixed mailing lists, websites, twitter/identi.ca, IRC, conferences, LUGs, etc? Strawman.
* Death threats
I get them too. What are these folks objecting to? Just your presence? Are they really project participants? I see some people whose job or obsession is to demotivate us and aren't really project participants.
* Accusations of reverse sexism when we ask people to avoid the above
But what do I do when someone is? It can happen, you know, and right now I'm damned if I do, and damned if I do not.
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Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:41 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (subscriber, #2510)
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Well, QSol's out of business, it appears. I won't lament.
Was Mike-whoever-he-is identified as a real member of a Free Software community? The reason I am asking is that I have had people do similar stuff to me, and when I've explored I find that they have no real connection to any project and are more likely someone who is paid to make us look bad.
OK, "reverse-sexism" is bogus, and not the sexism I was concerned with.
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Posted Aug 28, 2009 0:02 UTC (Fri) by Skud (guest, #59840)
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I believe MikeeUSA was an open source developer of some kind; some kind of gaming-related stuff? But it's not really relevant: his death threats are no less scary and offputting.
As for the fact that you (and presumably others) receive death threats, I don't think it's cool or OK that *anyone* threatens anyone's life ever, but I do think men are in a better position to brush it off: there is not such a history of men being killed purely out of misandry. The Debian death threats had an eerie similarity to the Montreal Massacre killer's anti-feminism, and more recently to George Sodini. It is absolutely and realistically scary that men kill women just for being in technical fields and/or believe that feminists are ruining everything. Much as we'd love to ignore it and brush it off, we can't.
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Posted Aug 28, 2009 0:58 UTC (Fri) by BrucePerens (subscriber, #2510)
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I agree with you about threats.
While I would not be a victim of misandry, there is a history of similar nutcases targeting ethnic semites. And lots of folks believe we're running everything too.
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Posted Aug 28, 2009 1:42 UTC (Fri) by spender (subscriber, #23067)
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He also seems to be a user of grsecurity. He's annoyingly littered up completely unrelated technical topics with his misogynistic views several times.
-Brad
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Posted Aug 28, 2009 6:18 UTC (Fri) by hypatiadotca (guest, #60478)
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thanks for that pointer, spender. lead me to find his real name, finally. seems he's a law student in maine.