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Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really??Posted Aug 27, 2009 20:58 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510)In reply to: Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really?? by talbutt Parent article: FSF to host a mini-summit on Women in Free Software The theory of software that is less supportive in women is in this paper. We don't need to discuss it, as I was confusing the person I was replying to as the author of that paper, erroneously. As for women being harassed at trade shows, it's horrible. It's not restricted to our field, though. Consider this, perhaps the worst example known. On the internet? Yes, I'm sure it happens there too. I am just having trouble with the idea that this is almost 100% reliable in keeping out women. No other cause at all, eh?
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Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really?? Posted Aug 27, 2009 22:20 UTC (Thu) by ShinyShiny (guest, #60486) [Link]
Why do you want a theory that is 100% reliable in keeping women outta open source contributing?
There's plenty of women, right here, right now, on this thread saying the sexist shit that happens does drive them away.... Are you deliberately ignoring and discounting them?
Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really?? Posted Aug 27, 2009 23:26 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link] Nope. I am just astonished that whatever is happening is so effective.I am not against fixing the problems within the free software community. I am not convinced that those are all of the problems or even the worst problems.
Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really?? Posted Aug 28, 2009 7:34 UTC (Fri) by koipond (guest, #60493) [Link]
I've been lurking a while on the conversation but I'd like to stop at this for a second.
You're surprised that sexism has been effective in keeping women away?
Just stop on that comment for a second and then realize that this is privilege. You don't have to worry about this kind of thing at all and because you don't it is a symbol of your privilege. You are free from this kind of fear and frustration.
What had been increasing other people's frustration is that what you've been saying though your words is the whole, "I don't see it, ergo it must not exist." When people point it out you still have that hat on your head and there's nothing women comment makers and experience sharers feel that they can do to dislodge it because you're denying their experience.
It is a large problem because the people who are affected by it say it's a big problem. You can't tell people who are experiencing the situation that it's not a big deal because that's making their problems seem invisible.
Women don't have the same passion for open source men do? Really?? Posted Aug 28, 2009 17:54 UTC (Fri) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link] Well, Skud was helpful with content that explains the situation. Before then I had mostly men telling me how women felt, which wasn't very helpful.
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