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OK, I'll bite. Sides of this issue you might not be considering

Posted Aug 25, 2009 18:55 UTC (Tue) by paulj (subscriber, #341)
In reply to: OK, I'll bite. Sides of this issue you might not be considering by BrucePerens
Parent article: FSF to host a mini-summit on Women in Free Software

I wonder if perhaps what mjg is saying is that it is generally the case that those with HFA tendencies who are HF-enough / not-so-far-down-the-scale that they can be productively involved in collaberative software development are by definition sufficiently intelligent and self-aware to be able to modulate their online behaviour.

They might not do brilliantly in face-to-face social settings, but they can almost certainly learn to apply to some rules to improve the way they communicate online. (Note that these rules can include things like appropriateness, etc.. which could go to addressing the more specific perceived problem of sexism, in addition to generally improving the state of communication in free software - the sometimes aggressive/unfriendly/unappealing aspect of which I personally suspect is at least a co-contributing factor in the gender imbalance).

In order to form and apply any such rules, HFAs would need /more/ in the way explicit feedback, rather than just accepting inappropriate behaviour from them. Further, the "form" part can be bootstrapped somewhat.


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OK, I'll bite. Sides of this issue you might not be considering

Posted Aug 25, 2009 19:58 UTC (Tue) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link]

Regardless of their function / impairment the average engineer has little grasp of the writer's control of tone. This is an area where training can help almost everyone.

It is a problem I encounter frequently in consulting corporations on how to operate relationships with the Open Source community. In general that setting allows me to help choose the corporate communicators for their mediative ability and their capacity to work with unskilled communicators outside of the company without taking umbrage. Sending the engineers to occupational therapy would be beyond the scope of the engagement :-)

Dispensing additional coaching isn't always easy. At some point we can exceed people's ability to receive criticism, and they get upset.

OK, I'll bite. Sides of this issue you might not be considering

Posted Aug 26, 2009 19:41 UTC (Wed) by maco (guest, #53641) [Link]

I would guess that if you're on the ball enough to figure out 1) that people are upset 2) you're the reason and then that you can use Aspergers as an excuse...you're probably aware of both yourself and others enough to moderate your own behaviour.

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