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Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News)Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News)Posted Aug 24, 2009 19:01 UTC (Mon) by bedahr (guest, #60420)In reply to: Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News) by jspaleta Parent article: Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News)
Thanks for actually _discussing_ this!
I can't remember how often I had the exact same issue raised but it always ended in someone crying out: "Uses non-GPL code! Kill it with fire!" (or similar) and not relating to any replies or explanations from my side at all.
So again, thanks for understanding the complicated situation!
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Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News) Posted Aug 24, 2009 19:46 UTC (Mon) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
Make sure you are able to make the speech model as document format argument clear when someone steps up to submit the package. You might want to drop a blurb in a high level readme in the simon codebase which talks to this (if its not there already). When/if this comes up for submission as a Fedora package, there's no guarantee the reviewers will have read the discussion here..but they will review the material in the simon codebase in discussion with the packager. Dropping a note into a readme will help make reviewers aware that speech models are editable text file content and note at a minimum the existence of sphinx-train and the speech model format converter tool.
-jef
Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News) Posted Aug 24, 2009 20:31 UTC (Mon) by bedahr (guest, #60420) [Link]
Yes I will add this information tomorrow.
Maybe I'll even add it to the FAQ of the project wiki...
But btw.: Has anyone even talked to the fedora team? Or is this a hypothetical discussion? If so it is oddly fedora specific IMHO?
Greetings,
Simon - speech activated user interface for KDE (KDE.News) Posted Aug 24, 2009 20:47 UTC (Mon) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
This is somewhat hypothetical.... someone has to do the packaging work and submit it for review... and I'm not aware of anyone working on packaging Simon yet for Fedora. Hell this is the first I heard of it. I'm holding out for direct neural interfaces instead of speech...moving my mouth takes soooo much effort.
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts members of Fedora's Technical leadership will read the discussion here and will be aware of the content argument. But ultimately it comes down to someone taking the responsibility to maintain the Simon package and start the package submission review process. A summary of the situation in faq or readme will help prevent an unnecessary delay once someone does step forward.
I would also think a Debian packaging effort would also benefit from a summary of this discussion...if they aren't ready working on packages. I think they'll have similar concerns but I'm less informed about the details of Debian policy with regard to "content" versus "code" than I am about Fedora's policy.
-jef
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