> Some people are shy. Some people don't like confrontation, even
implied. Some people wait for others to ask them to participate.
Sorry, but this is true for *both* women and men. To me, the above
sentences suggest that you think that women are somehow "inferior" or
unable to withstand confrontation.
> And if they see other people being flamed to a crisp for tiny (often
> imperceptible) infractions, and other signs of terminal testosterone
> poisoning, they may choose not to participate.
And again, how does that specifically pertain to women as opposed to
men? So, if I'm a guy and I get flamed to a crisp, well tough luck, now
if I'm a girl, oh nooo, just not acceptable!...
Also, please remember that women can flame as good as men. I've seen my
share of women that can bring a guy/girl to tears in tech or semi-tech
jobs, so when it comes to being unpleasant, both genders are equally
People, don't you notice a pattern here? Most articles I've seen
referred on LWN about the subject of women equality on free software
projects are actually arguing for the opposite, that is, differentiated
The current article is outright *sexist* (despite claiming against it)
and to me, it seemed to suggest that women are somehow handicapped.
An lets look at some gems from the article:
"It's kind of like being handed a box full of random bicycle parts: it
doesn't help when you don't know how they go together and just want to
learn how to ride a bike."
Well, that would be true for anyone trying to join the project, man or
woman. So there is no evident relation.
"I considered getting involved in Debian, but the barriers to entry
What the author of the article needs to understand is that usually a
free software (or any other) project sets out with a goal of a specific
technical complexity. If the project is to succeed, its developers need
to have a certain level of technical skill.
Obviously not every newcomer is at that skill or experience level. Now,
as an inexperienced newcomer, you have to options: you can chose to be
humble, lurk on the lists and try to slowly learn the necessary skills or
you can choose to whine about how you are unskilled and don't learn
anything and that others are unpleasant to you.
Its the same thing as a job interview. Would you find it odd that a
company tries to hire the right person for a job? You either convince
them that you have the potential or you're going to fail the interview;
no amount of whining will save you.
I'm not saying that free projects should be done in a "kill or be
killed" kind of environment but they certainly are about solving
problems, surpassing difficulties and improving ourselves as developers
while withstanding adversity and competition. If you don't have that kind
of attitude as a newcomer, chances are that people won't value you as
So, in fact to me it seems that what this article says is "women are
morons, please cut them some slack". And that certainly doesn't help.
And in conclusion, again quoting from the article:
"Call people on their crap.
If someone's being an asshole, call them on their crap. How do you tell
if someone's being an asshole?"
Yes, I have to call the author of the article on her crap.