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dependenciesdependenciesPosted Jul 4, 2009 3:30 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954)In reply to: dependencies by jzbiciak Parent article: Soft updates, hard problems Sure, but popularity is irrelevant to the point I'm making. In fact, I mentioned in my first post that "functionality" is widely used this way - it's why I thought it was worth mentioning. "Dependency" is quite a bit more popular than "dependence" in computer science discussions, but still wrong. Other phrasings that are in majority use but wrong: IDE to mean ATA, DB-9 to mean DE-9, RJ45 to mean the 8 position modular connector we use with Ethernet. "Could care less" to mean couldn't care less, gridlock to mean slow traffic, exponential growth to mean fast growth, steep learning curve to mean shallow learning curve.
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dependencies Posted Jul 4, 2009 9:18 UTC (Sat) by SiB (subscriber, #4048) [Link]
> Sure, but popularity is irrelevant to the point I'm making.
Language is supposed to serve people, not the other way. What people use and understand defines language, not the dictionary. The dictionary is supposed to record how people use language. Language evolves. Dictionaries need to follow that change. Popularity is all that matters. (I'm not a native English speaker, but what I said should apply to all languages in use.)
dependencies Posted Jul 4, 2009 18:12 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link] Sure, but popularity is irrelevant to the point I'm making.Language is supposed to serve people, not the other way. What people use and understand defines language, not the dictionary. I agree, but I don't know why you bring it up. While I made the statement above about popularity, I didn't say anything about dictionaries except to say that the dictionary doesn't support my usage of "function." Popularity is all that matters Language serves people best by being logical, consistent, precise, and easily expressive. Those are not implied by popularity -- the number of people using a particular phrasing. When one chooses between two phrasings to write, the relative number of times one has heard one or the other should be a fairly minor factor.
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