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Tiemann: Open Source IncentivesTiemann: Open Source IncentivesPosted Jul 3, 2009 19:15 UTC (Fri) by stijn (subscriber, #570)Parent article: Tiemann: Open Source Incentives The alarming storyline, if true, would be quite astonishing. Searching for 'gates foundation' gave as second link http://www.gatesfoundation.org/grantseeker , stating in the glossary of terms under lobbying no less, Private foundations such as the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation are, by law, prohibited from lobbying. It would not surprise me, but it would border on stupid for the foundation to attempt this.
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Tiemann: Open Source Incentives Posted Jul 3, 2009 20:11 UTC (Fri) by zooko (subscriber, #2589) [Link]
http://zooko.com/log-2002-11.html#d2002-11-12-bmgf
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Yesterday I was delighted to see that Bill Gates is donating $100 million U.S. to fight AIDS in India.
Today I was extremely disappointed to learn that it wasn't Bill Gates who donated the money, nor
Tiemann: Open Source Incentives Posted Jul 6, 2009 13:46 UTC (Mon) by pboddie (guest, #50784) [Link] Is the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation a charity? It's like finding out that the services of Robin Hood can only be booked through the Sheriff of Nottingham's office of taxation. Expect the fawning media to focus on the hand doing the giving, not the one doing the taking.
Tiemann: Open Source Incentives Posted Jul 4, 2009 1:17 UTC (Sat) by njs (subscriber, #40338) [Link]
First, I'm not sure whether the US government gives a fig about a 501(c) trying to lobby *other* governments. Second, "lobbying" refers (as per that glossary) specifically to influencing legislation, and much of what happens in schools etc. is not specifically determined by legislation.
Tiemann: Open Source Incentives Posted Jul 4, 2009 15:09 UTC (Sat) by stijn (subscriber, #570) [Link]
There is the moral aspect as well as the legal aspect. A charitable foundation that tries to prop up a
business is morally bankrupt. Perhaps the foundation is not legally a charity if 'charity' happens to be another legal concept, but that is not the point. I assumed that the text I quoted was a little more than a legal statement.
Tiemann: Open Source Incentives Posted Jul 4, 2009 22:20 UTC (Sat) by njs (subscriber, #40338) [Link]
Oh, I agree about the moral aspect. I'm just uncomfortable saying that if X is morally questionable, then a large organization must not be doing X. Hopefully the B&MGF does keeps itself removed from Microsoft's concerns, and my impression has been that the B&MGF is not just(?) a tool for publicity by other means. But I'd rather see the accusations raised here addressed with evidence than panglossian optimism.
Tiemann: Open Source Incentives Posted Jul 4, 2009 2:53 UTC (Sat) by jreiser (subscriber, #11027) [Link] The mere existence of the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act is a clue that different rules may apply. The statute itself does not contain the string "lobby".
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