Novell challenges SCO
Importantly, and contrary to SCO's assertions, SCO is not the owner of the UNIX copyrights. Not only would a quick check of U.S. Copyright Office records reveal this fact, but a review of the asset transfer agreement between Novell and SCO confirms it. To Novell's knowledge, the 1995 agreement governing SCO's purchase of UNIX from Novell does not convey to SCO the associated copyrights. We believe it unlikely that SCO can demonstrate that it has any ownership interest whatsoever in those copyrights. Apparently, you share this view, since over the last few months you have repeatedly asked Novell to transfer the copyrights to SCO, requests that Novell has rejected." The letter also states that SCO could face "significant legal liability" for the damage it is doing to the Linux community. Worth a read.
Update: also worth a look is SCO's Big Lie
from Bruce Perens.
Posted May 28, 2003 14:11 UTC (Wed)
by blaisepascal (guest, #9336)
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What's left? What, exactly, does SCO own to sue over?
Posted May 28, 2003 14:35 UTC (Wed)
by dkite (guest, #4577)
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Posted May 28, 2003 15:05 UTC (Wed)
by southey (guest, #9466)
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Posted May 28, 2003 16:01 UTC (Wed)
by Baylink (guest, #755)
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Posted May 28, 2003 16:39 UTC (Wed)
by rfunk (subscriber, #4054)
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SCO says it's a contract issue. Perens says that still can only be based on trade secrets.
Posted May 28, 2003 17:21 UTC (Wed)
by anandrajan (guest, #146)
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After reading through 499 slashdot comments on this topic---some of which featured the SCO stockholders conference call---the sense I get is that SCO thinks it will be successful via litigation in getting the relevant copyrights since all four of the original people (2 from SCO and 2 froom Novell) involved in signing the exclusive Unix distribution license that SCO got from Novell thought that the deal included copyrights. SCO has recently asked for transfer of copyrights from Novell which Novell has refused to do.
At this time, both Novell and Perens are indicating that SCO just has an exclusive UNIX distribution license with Novell retaining UNIX copyrights and patents.
Anand
Posted May 28, 2003 17:43 UTC (Wed)
by ncm (guest, #165)
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What contract are these other companies supposed to have with SCO
that puts them at risk?
Novell owns the copyrights and remaining patents on UNIX System V. The Open Group owns the trademark on the term UNIX. There are no trade secrets remaining with regard to UNIX because of how open UNIX has been in the past.Let me get this straight.....
Trade secrets, which they were distributing in source code anyone could look at.
Let me get this straight.....
But this doesn't change the basis of the suit - essentially that IBM provided SCO code to Linux! All the rest is just smoke as SCO is trying to attack Linux and the various groups, now including the Open Group and Novell, are clearing that nicely!
Novell challenges SCO
Yes, it *does* change the basis of the suit. Novell challenges SCO
In civil litigation, there is a concept known as "standing" -- do you have
"standing to sue" another party? The concept is analogous to that of "an
insurable interest" in that industry -- if you don't have an insurable
interest in someone or something (by relation, employment or ownership)
you won't be allowed to take out an insurance policy on it.
A similar concept applies here -- if SCO is merely a licensee of the
copyrights in the Unix sources, any duty they might have to file suit over
their release would be subrogate to the actual *owner* of those
copyrights, which in this case is apparently Novell.
Note: IANAL, I just play one on the 'net.
More updates -- SCO has replied to Novell, and Perens has commented on that reply.
Novell challenges SCO
Please note that SCO is *still* claiming (after Novell's PR) that it owns the relevant copyrights. This apparently came up during the conference call today. Seen on Slashdot. Not clear about their position on patents.
SCO claims that it can win a copyright fight
Now SCO is claiming that the case is about breach of contract,
not copyright or trade secrets. That makes so much nonsense of
their previous remarks that Suse, Red Hat, et al., are next.
Another Big Lie