Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

[Posted June 9, 2009 by ris]

Matt Asay looks at Fedora 11 and the Linux desktop in general. "This is the state of "desktop" Linux today: it really has nothing left to prove. It took years to become user friendly, but it has arrived, helped along by the world's move to browser-based computing. At this point, the only thing that Fedora and the other Linux distributions can do is embrace and extend the Windows or Mac computing experience, because they've largely matched them (especially Windows)."

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 8:30 UTC (Wed) by Osiris (guest, #58893) [Link] (1 responses)

Gnu/Linux should take the place of Mac and Windows because it has much more potential than the other. I believe that this is already happening, but too slowly. What you think about this?

Happening what?

Posted Jun 10, 2009 21:32 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link]

I believe that GNU/Linux right now has a loyal following in certain niches, and is slowly growing to be self-sufficient. It is poised to be huge but may never realize that potential. It is in fact up to us all.

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 11:22 UTC (Wed) by sunr2007 (guest, #59024) [Link] (8 responses)

FC11 is great. I think its best version from fedora till date. It's better
than ubuntu 9.04 and windows 7 RC.

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 13:46 UTC (Wed) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link] (7 responses)

I installed the preview on my EeePC 901 and loved it.
Sad thing is some Intelgfx,X11 and kernel updates killed suspend and resume and downgrading to older versions seems really hard.

I hope that gets fixed soonish.

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 14:45 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (4 responses)

Does a fresh installation have the same problem? Do you have bug reports filed?

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 15:54 UTC (Wed) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link] (3 responses)

I won't do a fresh install to fix problems. My windows days are over :P

And no I haven't filed a bug report. I don't have the disk space for debug packages and I think it is a problem that will be fixed whether I file a bug or not. The EeePC isn't exactly exotic hardware and the Intel/KMS suspend and resume problems seem to be well known and will get a fix.
I will however reconsider if this isn't fixed within a reasonable timeframe.

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 16:54 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

If you update from a preview release, the potential for problems is a bit more because bugs that have been fixed sometimes linger on in upgrades. It is important to file a bug report when you run into issues since not everyone with the same hardware is experiencing the same problems. That assumption is often wrong.

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 19:00 UTC (Wed) by blitzkrieg3 (guest, #57873) [Link] (1 responses)

You know if everyone had that mentality, the bug would never get filed.

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 11, 2009 2:42 UTC (Thu) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

1. Read the last sentence again
2. Repeat until you understand

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 15:16 UTC (Wed) by skvidal (guest, #3094) [Link] (1 responses)

If you have yum 3.2.23 installed try running:

yum downgrade packagename

Red Hat's Fedora 11: So easy you'll forget it's Linux (CNet)

Posted Jun 10, 2009 15:34 UTC (Wed) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, security
Setting up Downgrade Process
Only Upgrade available on package: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-7.fc11.i586
Nothing to do

yum version 3.2.22