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Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

From:  "Sousou, Imad" <imad.sousou-AT-intel.com>
To:  "dev-AT-moblin.org" <dev-AT-moblin.org>
Subject:  Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops
Date:  Tue, 19 May 2009 09:54:23 -0600
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The Moblin steering committee is happy to release the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops for
developer testing. With this release, developers can begin to experience and work with the source
code of the visually rich, interactive user interface designed for Intel Atom based Netbooks. The
Moblin v2.0 user experience has been designed from the ground up to provide unique ways to engage
with the internet, aggregate your social networking activity, and enjoy your media content. The new
user experience and core applications were developed using the Clutter animation framework,
leveraging heavily from GL and the physics engine.

Experience it for yourself. Download<http://moblin.org/downloads> the Moblin v2.0 Netbook beta
images and take it for a test drive<http://moblin.org/documentation/test-drive-moblin>. View the
user experience video<http://moblin.org/documentation/moblin-netbook-intro>, take a look at the
screen shots<http://moblin.org/documentation/moblin-netbook-intro>, or download the preliminary
user guide<http://moblin.org/documentation/moblin-netbook-intro>.

We would like to invite and encourage all developers to test the beta. We feel the code has reached
a level where both developers and enthusiasts can play with it. While fine tuning, bug fixing, and
polishing is ongoing, so is performance improvement, all of which you should start seeing rolled
into the weekly builds. We encourage anyone to test it and provide feedback to us through
bugzilla<https://bugzilla.moblin.org> or on the developer mailing
list<http://moblin.org/community/mailing-lists>. Only with your feedback can we further enhance the
user experience.

Moblin v2.0 Beta Feature Summary

*         New, visually rich user experience, optimized for Netbook and Nettops, building on the
latest open source graphics technology, such as Clutter, DRI2, and KMS. The user experience is
provided mainly through the toolbar and panels, available at the top of the screen.

*         The m_zone, acting as the 'home screen' panel. It provides instant access to your
synchronized calendar, tasks, appointments, recently used files, and real-time updates from your
friends on social networking sites.

*         Aggregation of your social networking content. This provides you with the ability to see
your social networking activities on one screen, easily interact with your friends, and update your
status and site information. Twitter and Last.fm are the currently supported social networking
sites, with more to come.

*         A web browser optimized for the Moblin 2.0 Netbook user interface. Based on the latest
Mozilla browser technology revised into a Clutter shell, the browser gives you access to the whole
internet, as well as advanced features, such as video embedding and the latest Flash plug-in, while
integrating seamlessly into the user interface.

*         A 'Zoomable' media player. This player brings your media collection to life as you zoom
from viewing all media down to focusing on an individual picture, movie, or audio track. The media
player can detect and index media on external USB devices, as well as UPnP devices on your
network.

*         A user interface for connection management and an updated connection manager (ConnMan).

*         And, of course, support for Linux desktop applications. Moblin is built using GNOME
Mobile Technologies and supports existing Linux desktop applications.

From here on out, we will focus on performance, bug fixing, fine tuning, and polishing. We post
beta builds weekly in the download area.

Moblin images should work on Intel based Netbooks and Nettops, we've been testing with the
following platforms: Acer Aspire*One, Asus eeePC* 901, 1000H, Dell Mini 9, MSI Wind, Lenovo S10,
Samsung NC10, HP Mini 1010 and 1120NR (wired networking only for now)

Imad Sousou
Director, Intel Open Source Technology Center



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Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 19, 2009 19:42 UTC (Tue) by fuhchee (subscriber, #40059) [Link]

There appears no mention of (lack of) GMA500/Poulsbo graphics support this time, and the moblin web site's claim that everything is open source would seem to preclude the inclusion of the ubuntu psb blobs. Can someone confirm?

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 19, 2009 20:57 UTC (Tue) by arjan (subscriber, #36785) [Link]

The Moblin 2.0 does not contain a binary powervr/psb blob.

Arjan -- who works for Intel on Moblin.

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 20, 2009 7:41 UTC (Wed) by sysgo (guest, #44839) [Link]

So how do you achieve the 3D performance for Clutter w/o a binary 3D driver? Do you have an OSS driver for the GMA500 meanwhile?

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 20, 2009 9:25 UTC (Wed) by xav (guest, #18536) [Link]

Could you elaborate a bit ? Do you mean:

- Moblin includes an open 3D driver ?
- Moblin won't work on poulsbo ?
- Manufacturers are supposed to add the binary driver to Moblin ?

Thanks,
Xav

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 20, 2009 14:18 UTC (Wed) by arjan (subscriber, #36785) [Link]

* Moblin 2.0 beta includes the 3D driver for the regular Intel Integrated Graphics, but not for the PowerVR based 3D graphics (GMA500) or other 3D graphics.
* This indeed means that the Moblin 2.0 beta does not work (well) on what you call "poulsbo".
* I can't speak for what Manufacturers do or don't do; that tends to be a business relationship between them and their suppliers.

Amazing and bad

Posted May 19, 2009 23:47 UTC (Tue) by kragil (subscriber, #34373) [Link]

I just booted it on my netbook and it is great to see how fast a linux UI can be. Well done Intel.
Some parts of the UI I like, but some things are just too finger focused to make sense on a netbook. Copy&paste stinks. Window management blows. Tone down the effects. The browser seems like a fail.

But for a beta it really is quite impressive!

Amazing and bad

Posted May 20, 2009 0:52 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

One of the very nice things I've noticed is that everything is documented.

They tracked down what versions of what libraries to be compatible with Moblin.. it's obviously designed to allow people to change the platform quite a bit, but have compliance testing and documentation that will allow effective application compatibility.

This I think is the best thing about it. It's one thing to have a nice UI.. my original EEE701 was pretty decent, but the inability for regular people to install applications and games was a killer. It's the bane for the entire Linux-as-a-netbook-OS effort.

Amazing and bad

Posted May 20, 2009 11:00 UTC (Wed) by kragil (subscriber, #34373) [Link]

I agree. Good docs go a long way. But I still think calling this a beta is not really the whole truth. Today most beta software is more complete than this. The browser crashes constantly and apart from the graphics and the boot it isn't really fast. Starting the calculator takes around 5 seconds(Creating a new "zone" and then displaying it.)
I hope that is due to all the debug code, otherwise there should be some profiling taking place.

It would be kind of ironic if the whole OS starts faster than every app.

Now that it is a LF project I would hope that the strong Intel focus will go away. I think ARM/MIPS platforms should really embrace this. This and Android have the most potential on future devices IMNSHO.

I also hope Gnome in take a close look at this. A lot of this stuff could be useful for Gnome3.

Amazing and bad

Posted May 20, 2009 12:30 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Well I think that for Gnome3 stuff... a lot of people are embracing the Intel boot-fast improvements. Clutter is definately something that they've been talking about for Gnome 3.0 and most of the 'online service' stuff is something that Redhat and friends were all about for a while now. Telepathy stuff for Empathy and other Gnome apps is something that is used in Moblin and Gnome already have strong affinity for.

Intel is taking a very strong get-everything-into-upstream approach with this Moblin project. Which isn't necessarially how they approach open source stuff normally. For example their documentation specify that they are requiring a 2.6.28 or newer kernel as well they are using Vanilla kernel sources (although they mention that in the future they are not going to exclude a small amount custom patching)

Amazing and bad

Posted May 20, 2009 13:46 UTC (Wed) by skvidal (subscriber, #3094) [Link]

Except for the forks of anaconda, livecd-creator and mkinitrd.

Amazing and bad

Posted May 20, 2009 15:45 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Well.. Anaconda may be bad. But I don't blame them for livecd-creator and especially not for mkinitrd. Those things are so distro-specific that it's not even funny. They should not be distro-specific though, which is the sad part.

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 20, 2009 9:46 UTC (Wed) by endecotp (guest, #36428) [Link]

Can anyone comment about how easy it is to use e.g. just the kernel and lower-level user stuff without the GUI, or vice-versa? How monolithic is it?

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 20, 2009 14:00 UTC (Wed) by walters (subscriber, #7396) [Link]

I believe that's the intent of the "Moblin Core" separation:

http://moblin.org/documentation/moblin-overview/moblin-core

Announcing the Moblin v2.0 beta for Netbooks and Nettops

Posted May 20, 2009 16:47 UTC (Wed) by endecotp (guest, #36428) [Link]

Thanks for the link. It looks as if "Moblin Core" goes right up to the GUI libraries. I'm not sure if that's what I want.

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