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Linux.com relaunched

The Linux Foundation has announced the relaunch of Linux.com, which it acquired recently. "Linux.com is designed to mirror the Linux community process by hosting a collaborative framework where users and developers can connect and increase the collective Linux knowledge and resources for new and advanced users alike. The site is the central source for informed Linux information, software and documentation covering the server, desktop, mobile, and embedded areas."
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Linux.com relaunched

Posted May 13, 2009 16:11 UTC (Wed) by Thomas (subscriber, #39963) [Link]

First thing you'll notice: they annoy you with gazillions of cookies.
Second thing: the page is full of JavaScript slowing the browser down to slowest possible speed.

My first and only impression: slow and cumbersome, this is exactly not how Linux should place itself in the market. Until I read elsewhere that the web page has been much improved this was my first and last visit. Make the web page snappy and quick, that's what you expect from a Linux system, or?

I am really disappointed how my favorite OS is represented by something that labels itself "The site is the central source for informed Linux information, software and documentation covering the server, desktop, mobile, and embedded areas."

Linux.com relaunched

Posted May 13, 2009 16:47 UTC (Wed) by mheily (guest, #27123) [Link]

Agreed, the new site is nothing to be very proud of. Who decided that the front page should be nothing but unrelated syndicated content from sites like InfoWorld? I mean, the top story in the "Enterprise Computing" section is about Oracle and Sun -- nothing to do with Linux at all.

Maybe the Linux Foundation hired WebWizz to design this site..

Linux.com relaunched

Posted May 13, 2009 17:11 UTC (Wed) by michel (subscriber, #10186) [Link]

Wow. That is one ugly site.

Linux.com relaunched

Posted May 13, 2009 20:23 UTC (Wed) by mattdm (subscriber, #18) [Link]

Wow -- It's been a long, long time since I've seen the <MARQUEE> tag.

According to archive.org, they haven't updated that thing since at least 2000.

Linux.com relaunched

Posted May 13, 2009 21:58 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Yes indeed. Ew.

'We've struggled to get to grips with new technology ourselves'. Yes,
everyone can tell.

Back to 1998

Posted May 13, 2009 22:00 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

What about the rainbow separators and pinhead bullet points? That website is fantastic! It not only offers a platinum service for only £27.99 per week (including the design of 10 web pages and unlimited email addresses), but the homepage contains pearls of wisdom such as:
Within the next 12 to 18 months, internet access from digital TVs will become a reality; every library in the UK will have a public internet terminal; every school in the UK will have widespread internet access; every schoolchild in the UK will have their own email address and cybercafes and internet terminals will be springing up everywhere. This is not fantasy - this is reality.
Didn't find the "page under construction" sign, so they must be really professional. And now for the final joke:
Q: So, you have marketing know-how as well?
A: Judge for yourself - what do you think of our site and how we are positioning and selling ourselves?
Thanks for that.

Back to 1998

Posted May 13, 2009 23:08 UTC (Wed) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link]

I'm almost ashamed to admit that back in 1998 I might have thought that site was "pretty cool" with all its (non-Adobe) flash, glitter, animated GIFs, and <MARQUEE> banners. Yes, I know better now. :)

I thought the page mentioned £17.99 per week, but even that seems outrageously high. £17.99/month seems more reasonable, back then and today. I hope Webwizz made a fortune robbing others!

Back to the topic of Linux.com's relaunch, well, I don't think the page is all that bad—I've seen much, much worse—but they could consider optimizing it somewhat (reduce JavaScript, nested tables/iframes, etc.). Reading Linus' personal blog (linked from the main page) was kind of neat, even if not anywhere near related to Linux/Open Source.

Back to 1998

Posted May 14, 2009 6:06 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

You are right, the site would have been pretty cool. I've done worse stuff.
I thought the page mentioned £17.99 per week [...].
It does, but that is only the gold service. If you can live with a "5-page website" then that is the plan for you :D

age not to blame for this one

Posted May 14, 2009 19:49 UTC (Thu) by sbishop (guest, #33061) [Link]

A co-worker just showed me this awful site, and I immediately thought of this thread. It's a work-safe news site, and a wonder to behold:

http://www.havenworks.com/

One of the amazing things about it is that it's kept up to date. Someone has put a lot of work into it!

age not to blame for this one

Posted May 14, 2009 20:58 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

AUGH! MY EYES!

(the maintainer of that site is strongly against torture, which is
praiseworthy... except that everyone who visits that site gets their eyes
poked out with a spoon.)

Havenworks.com (off-topic)

Posted May 15, 2009 4:29 UTC (Fri) by pr1268 (subscriber, #24648) [Link]

A co-worker just showed me this awful site, and I immediately thought of this thread. It's a work-safe news site, and a wonder to behold:

http://www.havenworks.com/

OH. MY. ${DEITY}. That's just insane. :-O

Oddly enough, that page loads quickly and scrolls with little stutter (on Firefox 3.x) Viewing page info shows 817 Kb or so. Wow!

Havenworks.com (off-topic)

Posted May 15, 2009 7:27 UTC (Fri) by Darkmere (subscriber, #53695) [Link]

818KB for the html alone.
a ton of files in the range of 2->900 bytes. and a smattering of 2KB ones.
Total size ~ 2.2MB over 289 requests for a total load time ~10 seconds.

Impressive.

(Firebug , enable the "net" part and skim the results. Very handy!)

age not to blame for this one

Posted May 16, 2009 9:33 UTC (Sat) by Burgundavia (guest, #25172) [Link]

Wow. I love the hand-crafted tags with flags next to them. Wordpress has some really nice magazine-style themes. Then again, even Wdrdpress cannot save you from bad design: http://gregoryhartnell.wordpress.com/ (this is a local perennial candidate in my area)

Linux.com relaunched

Posted May 13, 2009 16:48 UTC (Wed) by NightMonkey (subscriber, #23051) [Link]

Hear, hear. LWN and LinuxDevices.com have trim and information-centric site styles. Did they make linux.com in Microsoft Word? Oh, it's Joomla.

Front page of LWN (text-only): 8.49KB
Front page of linux.com (text-only): 63.84KB

And it has so many columns, so many fluff stories, like a random IDG site (NetworkWorld/ComputerWorld/etc). Oh well. What is that "Top Linux Guru" nonsense about?

Viva LWN! :)

It's not for the LWN crowd

Posted May 13, 2009 17:04 UTC (Wed) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link]

To be fair, think about the audience and the purpose of the site. Linux.com is like the Linux area at Comdex for the web, and LWN is like Linux Plumbers Conference for the web. If they have measurable goals for the site, I bet they have something to do with getting previously non-Linux-using IT professionals to work up the courage to put up that first Linux server for work, or take on that first Linux consulting project, or get Linux training and develop a sense of "Linux ownership."

The Linux industry, which LF works for, needs an army of Linux-aware, skilled people on the customer side.

Probably better to compare this site to MSDN than to the existing Linux sites.

It's not for the LWN crowd

Posted May 13, 2009 23:28 UTC (Wed) by spiro (guest, #54657) [Link]

Not familiar with MSDN, but to me it appears to be an attempt at a site like Experts Exchange, Yahoo Answers, Daniweb, or any number of forums that allow you to rate each other to become the ultimate champion.

Kids like that sort of thing, especially if they get loot out of it.

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