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Posted May 5, 2009 13:39 UTC (Tue) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470)
Parent article: Long discussions about long names

This problem is a US problem only (well at least it's not an european problem because we don't have software patent here).
Why the kernel should be modified for a problem in one country ?
If there is another country with a more stupid law we have to modify the kernel one more time because of the lowest common denominator ?


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Posted May 5, 2009 13:59 UTC (Tue) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

> Why the kernel should be modified for a problem in one country ?

Because this specific country rules the whole world, especially the whole computing world. At least for now.

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Posted May 5, 2009 14:26 UTC (Tue) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470) [Link]

> Because this specific country rules the whole world, especially the whole computing world.

I've googled for "map kernel linux world" and the result is here : http://labor-liber.org/images/developers.map.jpeg
According to this map (Ok this is Debian devs and not kernel hackers) it's difficult to conclude that US rules the whole computing world.

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Posted May 5, 2009 14:34 UTC (Tue) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Well..

A) Most countries are not the USA, but most developed countries have patent treaties with the USA. Most companies producing software and hardware have USA as a big hunk of their target market.

B) The discussion coming from IBM and friends is adding a kernel option to disable long file name write support. Nobody is talking about eliminating it completely or by default.

Fix the real bug not the symptom

Posted May 5, 2009 18:12 UTC (Tue) by copsewood (subscriber, #199) [Link]

Perhaps a more global compile time option is needed so that US Linux users or distributors who are paranoid about being sued could compile a kernel with anything anyone claims as a software patent compiled out of it, or even a milder compile option which removes only what is claimed as patents by technology companies or trolls likely to sue.

The rest of the world and those in the US willing to take the risk can continue to have kernels compiled without this option based upon sound technical as opposed to broken legal considerations. As Linux and related computing and electronics jobs migrate to saner countries without broken patent regimes, the real bug can then be fixed: by unemployed US engineers demanding amendment of patent laws of their representatives which don't result in the export of US jobs.

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Posted May 5, 2009 18:21 UTC (Tue) by nhippi (subscriber, #34640) [Link]

> This problem is a US problem only (well at least it's not an european problem because we don't have software patent here).

1) Unfortunately we do have a patent problem in EU. Lots of software patents are granted (notice where mp3 patents were filed first) and nobody has dared to try them in court.
2) Even if it were a us-only problem, lots of companies (such as tomtom) would really like to sell stuff with linux to US. If linux is declared "not for US", such companies will choose other operating systems.
3) The cat is now on the table, the fact is now that microsoft is suing people for implementing this hack.
4) when dealing with law, being overly cautious is a good idea.

instead of crying on the loss of the ridiculous hack called vfat, we should be creating the PNG equilavent of removable storage filesystems.

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