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We were able to shave 400 milliseconds off the shutdown time by slightly trimming the WAV file shutdown music.
-- John Curran (Microsoft); boot time is no longer the battleground.

Tools Are Not Deities To Be Appeased. Subject saying in effect "$TOOL is upset!!!" is bloody useless.
-- Al Viro

From the few reports I have heard that the actual bug is not in the linux kernel code but rather it sounds like a denial of service attack against the implementation of http://uscode.house.gov/. With the attackers being able to inject a few bogus values, and cause lots of mayhem.

Now in the linux kernel we work around lots of bugs from lots of different sources, and this may be a place to work around someone else's bug. This does not appear to be a context where anyone is concerned about a 0 day exploit, so we don't need to rush. Further the functionality has been the same in the same in all places for a long time, and all of the pieces are at least in theory open to public review. So this should be a reasonable context for a public discussion.

The only reason I can see for not ultimately talking about things publicly is if this is one company making shady deals with another company in which case I do not see why the maintenance burden for those decision should fall on the linux community as a whole.

-- Eric Biederman
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Posted May 8, 2009 20:42 UTC (Fri) by ikm (subscriber, #493) [Link]

> We were able to shave 400 milliseconds off the shutdown time by slightly trimming the WAV file shutdown music.

I've shaved off much much more in my default KDE4 install by turning off that, how can I call it politely, 'music' of theirs that plays before it _starts_ shutting down. Why did they put it there? A mystery.

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Posted May 9, 2009 0:21 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

Is there a joke I'm missing in the Biederman quote? There's nothing remotely quotable here -- just an out of context extract from a boring discussion about something. And not even very readable (is that first sentence parseable?).

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Posted May 9, 2009 3:38 UTC (Sat) by jordanb (guest, #45668) [Link]

It's clearly in reference to the FAT patent bruhaha, and the proposal to add a compile option to disable long filenames in FAT32.

Sound engineering

Posted May 10, 2009 9:44 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

400 millisecons sounds like, a lot! Kudos to the great minds at Microsoft and the solid engineering behind Windows 7. Let us hope that Linux developers will follow suit and make the progress bar animation in Ubuntu move a bit faster (even if total shutdown times stay the same).

Sound engineering

Posted May 17, 2009 19:17 UTC (Sun) by Lennie (subscriber, #49641) [Link]

"follow suit" ?

I would like to see the Linux-developers stay ahead of the Windows-developers. :-) In my tests, I've seen Windows startup behind Linux every time on desktops. Although things do start slower when many daemons get added and are not started in parallel. I guess Windows does have similair problems from the users perspective.

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Posted May 10, 2009 13:10 UTC (Sun) by dmk (subscriber, #50141) [Link]

emails like the one from al viro should be sent more often on lkml.
just don't upset yourself, while writing and sending.

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