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GNOME 3 is not ready yet
Posted Apr 25, 2009 10:44 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
Unless you're one of the roughly 2% of people
who can use DRI2 and kernel modesetting, and possibly even then,
compositing and other apps trying to use OpenGL really don't get on, IIRC.
Do you believe that'll be the case 2-3 years down the road? There are
enough support to develop this thing now and if you'll be unable to use
DRI2 and kernel modesetting when GNOME 3 will be ready it'll be your own
Posted Apr 25, 2009 12:21 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
I remember when Linux worked well even on machines more than three years
old. (I generally upgrade only every eight years or so, because it takes
that long for the old machine to start to seem slow.)
It's nice to know that this is being comprehensively forgotten.
Posted Apr 25, 2009 16:03 UTC (Sat) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
I generally upgrade only every eight years or so,
Yep. All our desktops at work run Linux, and all of the machines are at least 5 years old. If GNOME stops working on our hardware, we'll switch our non-technical users to something else (probably XFCE.) The developers already stay away from GNOME, so no problems there.
Posted Apr 25, 2009 16:36 UTC (Sat) by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
Gnome discovered (after shipping unfortunately) that spatial actually sucks rocks in general usage. The distros turned off spatial for one release, Nautilus backpedaled, and within 6 months everything was back the way it was.
I also submit Longhorn for your consideration. Microsoft explored and marketed all these exciting new technologies, then jettisoned them all before shipping Vista.
Let the Gnome guys play for now. Hopefully they hit on some really neat new features. And hopefully the distros will paper over their mistakes.
Posted Apr 25, 2009 20:28 UTC (Sat) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
Do you only use Ubuntu for your desktop?
With Fedora and Debian, at least, spatial mode is still the default, and always have been the default since that was introduced by Gnome. As far as I know Ubuntu is the only one that does browser mode by default.
(Of course users can select one or the other)
Posted Apr 25, 2009 21:45 UTC (Sat) by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
Microsoft and Apple ditched spatial almost a decade ago; I thought Linux had finally caught up. My condolences to anyone who still has to open and drag around 22 separate windows just to find the song you want to play. :)
Posted Apr 26, 2009 14:23 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Posted Apr 27, 2009 8:13 UTC (Mon) by dwmw2 (subscriber, #2063)
"I try Fedora every few releases but I run into graphics (Radeon 3650) and printer (Samsung ML2510) driver issues, too lazy to fix em."
That would be a remarkable coincidence, since Fedora stays close to upstream and isn't likely to have broken those things in distro-specific patches.
Posted May 1, 2009 15:54 UTC (Fri) by kov (subscriber, #7423)
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