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Red Hat Opts for Pragmatism Over Glitz (NY Times)

Red Hat Opts for Pragmatism Over Glitz (NY Times)

Posted Apr 8, 2009 17:02 UTC (Wed) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625)
In reply to: Red Hat Opts for Pragmatism Over Glitz (NY Times) by jspaleta
Parent article: Red Hat Opts for Pragmatism Over Glitz (NY Times)

Look at this story: Ubuntu Goes Enterprise. What if they're planning to give away the OS and charge ISVs to distribute through their click-n-run warehouse/app store service?


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Re: Red Hat Opts for Pragmatism Over Glitz (NY Times)

Posted Apr 8, 2009 17:59 UTC (Wed) by nevyn (subscriber, #33129) [Link]

So a story from over 6 months ago, suggesting that Canonical are going to do something similar to https://www.redhat.com/wapps/isvcatalog/ means that they are going to make money for the desktop?

I appreciate everyone loves Canonical and hates Red Hat, but that doesn't change the reality that nobody is willing to pay for the desktop (and thus. nobody can make money from it).

Red Hat Opts for Pragmatism Over Glitz (NY Times)

Posted Apr 8, 2009 18:06 UTC (Wed) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

if they can sustain a business by charging ISV's for shelf space in their virtual retail store.. more power to them.

Hopefully they are getting more interest than the very few packages listed here:
http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/partner/...
or here:
http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/partner/s...
or here:
http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/partner/...
or here:
http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19&currency...
Awesome! DVD and codec software bundles I can legally use in the US! How many US users of Ubuntu who did their own Ubuntu installs do you think actually purchase that stuff? My understanding is this is the software the Dell pre-installs since the more commonly used software is potentially patent encumbered and a problem for Dell to ship out of the box.

I can't wait to compare Canonical's effort in the space with Red Hat's existing experience building its ISV partner channel in RHX:
https://www.redhat.com/wapps/isvcatalog/browse.html?actio...
http://press.redhat.com/2008/06/11/rhx-lessons-learned/

Care to wager if Canonical's Enterprise services teams will be as forthcoming about the evolution of their service offerings as Red Hat has been with the development of RHX? The Canonical ISV partnership push is really aimed at the LTS release. Would you call the number of listed packages in that partner repository for hardy a marked success? I wouldn't. The number of partner packages listed for Hardy is quite..meager.

What happened? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=746493
From the discussion it looks like the partner repository concept has been around since at least Dapper 6.06 (3 years) and Hardy was suppose to be the "hit the ground running" moment..and the partnership hasn't grown at all. I think anyone who really cares about the ISV market should contrast that experience with the Red Hat's RHX experience and decide for themselves who has the model that best services the combined interests of users and ISVs.

I think it's pretty safe to say that ISV's aren't falling over themselves to pay for Canonical's packaging services and enter into the partner repository. Maybe there really are a mob of ISV's waiting for the next LTS, a year from now, to jump on board and get into that partner repository..along side..the flashplugin package that's sitting so very lonely in the Jaunty partner repository today.

-jef

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