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Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry (New York Times)

Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry (New York Times)

Posted Apr 4, 2009 10:06 UTC (Sat) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501)
In reply to: Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry (New York Times) by danielpf
Parent article: Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry (New York Times)

It is a different OS that happens to share a kernel.

Can you run your Linux programs on Anderoid?


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Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry (New York Times)

Posted Apr 4, 2009 12:33 UTC (Sat) by sim0n (guest, #16432) [Link]

Linux is not an operating system but a kernel... details aside ;-) ... yes
you can "run your Linux programs on Android".
Why shouldn't you be able to ?

They have a pretty standard, but minimal, base system, where their android
stuff runs on top of it (unless they've stripper it further since the last
time I had a look at it...).

Pretty standard? Hardly.

Posted Apr 4, 2009 18:58 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

They have a pretty standard, but minimal, base system, where their android stuff runs on top of it.

Have you actually tried to check facts before answering? Bionic is pretty darn stripped libc and their utilites don't even try to pretent they support POSIX. It's kind of Unix-like environment, but it's not Unix at all. And "Adroid stuff" is not really tied to Linux - they can switch to other kernel if it and when it'll be feasible.

The fact that GNU/Linux was called just Linux for years now returns to bite you: most people say "Linux" and assume it's kind of GNU/Linux where you can use "normal Linux programs" - and Android is quite different from that.

Pretty standard? Hardly.

Posted Apr 5, 2009 19:51 UTC (Sun) by sim0nx (subscriber, #23065) [Link]

>>They have a pretty standard, but minimal, base system, where their
android stuff runs on top of it.

>Have you actually tried to check facts before answering? Bionic is
>pretty darn stripped libc and their utilites don't even try to pretent
>they support POSIX. It's kind of Unix-like environment, but it's not
>Unix at all.

Never said they were using glibc and were completely POSIX compliant or
anything like your regular XYZ-distro ;-)
I simply meant that you can have a shell, some regular at least unix-like
tools etc...

>And "Adroid stuff" is not really tied to Linux - they can switch to other
>kernel if it and when it'll be feasible.

When did I say it was Linux tied ?

>The fact that GNU/Linux was called just Linux for years now returns to
>bite you: most people say "Linux" and assume it's kind of GNU/Linux where
>you can use "normal Linux programs" - and Android is quite different from
>that.

I don't care what people "assume" ... Linux is the kernel, not
GNU/Linux... but as I said "details aside".
And you're wrong, it doesn't return to bite me as I was just quoting the
other comment ;-).

Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry (New York Times)

Posted Apr 4, 2009 17:43 UTC (Sat) by danielpf (subscriber, #4723) [Link]

Clearly it is common usage for "Linux" to have a different sense depending on the context, a kernel or an OS based on this kernel. Here Linux is used to mean any OS based on the Linux kernel, so there is no reason to distinguish Android from other Linux based OS's.

"Any OS" is clearly wrong.

Posted Apr 4, 2009 19:03 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Here Linux is used to mean any OS based on the Linux kernel, so there is no reason to distinguish Android from other Linux based OS's.

Sorry, but no. You can argue as much as you want about "any OS based on Linux" but for "normal people" Linux is GNOME/KDE/XFCE thing. Non-XWindow- based system is clearly not Linux for them. It can be called "Linux-based OS", "Linux-derived OS", but it's not "Linux". Just like XBox's OS is not Windows - even if they use the same (or almost the same) kernel.

"Any OS" is clearly wrong.

Posted Apr 5, 2009 16:44 UTC (Sun) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link]

> Non-XWindow- based system is clearly not Linux for them.

What a bizarre concept... So, you're saying that a Linux server with no running (or perhaps even installed) X server is not really running "Linux", whatever that means?? I'm sorry, but that's simply insane... I can think of no one whose definition of "Linux" is tied to X at all... (Plus, if X and the related desktop environments are what supposedly define "Linux", then does that mean that every other system that X and they run on are now also "Linux"? That makes absolutely zero sense...)

"Any OS" is clearly wrong.

Posted Apr 5, 2009 19:53 UTC (Sun) by sim0nx (subscriber, #23065) [Link]

hahaha lol

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