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TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

Posted Apr 2, 2009 17:10 UTC (Thu) by pbrutsch (guest, #4987)
Parent article: TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

First off, it's not FAT12 or FAT16 that's the issue, it's FAT32 and its long file name support.

Secondly, a replacement for FAT isn't going to happen. Period.

Until you have a replacement FS that's as simple and as widely supported - remember, it's not just PCs one needs to worry about - as FAT getting rid of it isn't going to happen any time soon, if it all.

All your efforts to fix the patent issue are moot if you can't get Apple, MS and all the dozens and dozens of camera and PDA/smart phone manufacturers out there to support it.


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TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

Posted Apr 2, 2009 17:33 UTC (Thu) by marcH (subscriber, #57642) [Link]

If the patent is threatening PCs I cannot see how it does not threaten these dozens and dozens of manufacturers the same.

TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

Posted Apr 2, 2009 18:08 UTC (Thu) by PO8 (guest, #41661) [Link]

Because device vendors license the patents, at least if Microsoft bugs them to. One reason Microsoft went after TomTom so hard is that they didn't want to give other device vendors the impression that they could let their licensing slide.

TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

Posted Apr 3, 2009 0:46 UTC (Fri) by Ze (guest, #54182) [Link]

>>Because device vendors license the patents, at least if Microsoft bugs them to. One reason Microsoft went after TomTom so hard is that they didn't want to give other device vendors the impression that they could let their licensing slide.

The way I see it, Microsoft went after TomTom knowing that it was highly unlikely they would take it to court. TomTom is a reasonably big name though ,so they get a bit of pseudo-creditability in other peoples eyes , that don't understand the fact that TomTom was too broke to take it to court.

TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

Posted Apr 3, 2009 3:06 UTC (Fri) by jamesh (guest, #1159) [Link]

Microsoft implemented long filename support before FAT32, and I don't believe it significantly changed with the move to FAT32.

As for a replacement for FAT, there is movement towards the exFAT file system for e.g. the successor to SDHC cards. It doesn't provide a combined long/short file name namespace, but I'm sure Microsoft has other patents on that format :(

TomTom Settlement Aftermath: Get the FAT Out (Groklaw)

Posted Apr 3, 2009 13:25 UTC (Fri) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

First off, it's not FAT12 or FAT16 that's the issue, it's FAT32 and its long file name support.
FAT16 also supports long filenames under Windows 95. (FAT32 was not introduced until Windows 95 OEM Service Release 2, I think.) The mechanism for adding long filenames to the DOS filesystem (whether FAT16 or FAT32, or even FAT12 on a floppy disk) is called VFAT.

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