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Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Here's a survey of upcoming distribution releases on The H. "Later this week, CentOS version 5.3 is expected to appear. The Red Hat clone, which traditionally releases a few weeks after the final releases of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), this time is a little late. Scientific Linux 5.3, also a Red Hat clone, appeared late last week. Just like CentOS, the developers built the distribution from the Quell packages of Red Hat Linux. However, the Scientific Linux developers have added some of their own extras and the distribution is backed by several scientific institutions, including Fermilab and CERN."
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Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 25, 2009 17:51 UTC (Wed) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

It appears that Ubuntu will be releasing with a later kernel then Fedora this time. *Much* later, in fact.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 25, 2009 23:03 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

What are you referring to? Fedora 11 will include 2.6.29 atleast and afaik, the Ubuntu plan is to include 2.6.28 in their next release. Not that it matter much especially since Fedora typically gets the latest kernel as updates, of course but I am curious.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 25, 2009 23:28 UTC (Wed) by mmcgrath (subscriber, #44906) [Link]

I think he blindly accepting what he reads:

FTA - 'Ubuntu will have support for the Ext4 file system alongside the new 2.6.68 Kernel'

Clearly a typo, but some people see what they want to see, in his case an Ubuntu that is more up to date then Fedora... never going to happen.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 26, 2009 1:21 UTC (Thu) by tbrownaw (guest, #45457) [Link]

Or, you know, "whoosh". Would someone who reads LWN really not realize that's something like a decade into the future?

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 26, 2009 22:51 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

"""
Would someone who reads LWN really not realize that's something like a decade into the future?
"""

My back-of-the-napkin estimate was actually about 12 years. But Rahul was right on schedule. :-)

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 26, 2009 23:31 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

"""
Clearly a typo, but some people see what they want to see, in his case an Ubuntu that is more up to date then Fedora... never going to happen.
"""

Quite the contrary, I'm pleased with the arrangement. My users benefit from the unwitting alpha testing done by Fedora users so that users of stable distros can enjoy a good out-of-the-box experience. 2.6.28 is quite the proper kernel for stable distros to include in their spring releases. While less stable, testing oriented distros are free to use 2.6.29.


Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 0:53 UTC (Fri) by dgilmore (subscriber, #40144) [Link]

"""
Quite the contrary, I'm pleased with the arrangement. My users benefit from the unwitting alpha testing done by Fedora users so that users of stable distros can enjoy a good out-of-the-box experience. 2.6.28 is quite the proper kernel for stable distros to include in their spring releases. While less stable, testing oriented distros are free to use 2.6.29.
"""

there is a reason why Fedora has not shipped a 2.6.28 kernel.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 0:57 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Your original post indicated that you think Ubuntu has a later kernel and that was wrong. For one, Fedora releases later than Ubuntu does and the freeze dates are different. 2.6.29 brings a lot of benefits to Fedora users and if it helps other distributions, that's just great. We help the Free software ecosystem that way.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 1:18 UTC (Fri) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

"""
Your original post indicated that you think Ubuntu has a later kernel and that was wrong.
"""

How can anyone be so unperceptive as this? You might consider reading the articles before replying to posts about them.

However, now that my migrations are nearly done, I'm perfectly happy to let Fedora users fall into all the holes so that my users don't have to.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 1:37 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

I am talking about your original comment here and not the article. Regardless of whatever Linux distribution you are using, you would end up benefiting from the work being done within Fedora and that's a good thing.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 2:30 UTC (Fri) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

"""
I am talking about your original comment here
"""

You mean the one where I quipped "*Much* later, in fact."? That was a comment about the article, which contained, and still contains, an amusing typo. At least I *think* it's a typo. If not, were all liable to be in for one hell of a surprise come April.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 2:45 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Ah, I see. Looks like, they fixed the article because I don't see it.

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 27, 2009 7:35 UTC (Fri) by motk (subscriber, #51120) [Link]

Ah, it's fun playing in the crackrockery.

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Posted Mar 27, 2009 23:01 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

Not that I'd want to claim that Fedora is perfect in this respect or anything, but Ubuntu has often pushed new chunks of code before Fedora - in some cases even when upstream are Fedora developers.

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Posted Mar 25, 2009 17:56 UTC (Wed) by jengelh (subscriber, #33263) [Link]

>Quell packages

Translations ahoy. ("Source packages") Quell is something different in English...

Distributions: The big and the small (The H)

Posted Mar 26, 2009 11:29 UTC (Thu) by davide.rossetti (subscriber, #20695) [Link]

exactly... was googling around for that Quell, without finding anything :)

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Posted Mar 27, 2009 9:47 UTC (Fri) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link]

Seems "The H" has now fixed the translation goof.

I found the article interesting because of its unusually wide look at what is new in the smaller and often overlooked distros. All the world's not Ubuntu, Fedora or OpenSuse...

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