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New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons)
LinuxElectrons looks at Meld, a new on-line community for embedded Linux. Meld, which is sponsored by MontaVista, takes some of the ideas of social networks and applies them to help embedded Linux developers collaborate. "'Linux is based on the idea of sharing knowledge, and there are strong underpinnings of this throughout the Linux community, yet there isn't a place for embedded Linux developers to go to collaborate and experience that sense of community,' said Joerg Bertholdt, Vice President of Marketing at MontaVista Software. 'Now, through Meld we want all embedded Linux device developers to come together to share their knowledge, collaborate with one another, and speed the design of innovative, commercial solutions running on embedded Linux. A strong community benefits all of its members and we believe this forum will allow Linux to grow and prosper in embedded devices.'"
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New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 9, 2009 22:46 UTC (Mon) by beattie (guest, #22563) [Link]
I'm a bit uncomfortable with a web site aimed at developing a "community" being run by a vendor with a direct stake in pushing it's own products in said community. Especially when the website has their domain-name on it. How free will people be to criticize companies and their products on a web site operated by a company with a stake in the game.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 10, 2009 3:29 UTC (Tue) by BenHutchings (subscriber, #37955) [Link]
You're right to distrust corporate "communities". Not only are such private forums subject to bias and censorship but they can be removed at any time. They are to real communities as malls are to marketplaces.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Apr 23, 2009 15:53 UTC (Thu) by tkitch (guest, #58222) [Link]
Disclaimer [I work for MontaVista]
I can understand your concern, however, if you check out Meld, you will find that MontaVista employees, although do participate in Meld, really focus on helping members with their problems and not pushing our products on them. If we believe our products will help them with their problems, then we may suggest using MontaVista to help solve those problems, but we also suggest other ways to remedy the issue that do not involve purchasing MontaVista products.
>> Especially when the website has their domain-name on it.
With our domain name on it (meld.mvista.com), we're definitely not trying to hide that we're powering this site. I hope this lends to being out in the open.
>> How free will people be to criticize companies and their products on a web site operated by a company with a stake in the game.
I encourage you to come over to meld.mvista.com and express your thoughts there and find out how free you are to comment/criticize.
-Troy Kitch
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 10, 2009 0:16 UTC (Tue) by xilun (subscriber, #50638) [Link]
Why don't people just post on main Linux mailing lists?
Seriously, there is at least one per architecture and lot of knowledgable people there.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 10, 2009 3:16 UTC (Tue) by jlokier (guest, #52227) [Link]
The "Linux main mailing list" - linux-kernel - is huge. Few people with full time work can keep up with it. Even skimming the subject lines is a lot of work.
Most of it isn't about Embedded Linux, so it's good if a development community focused on that emerges. Well, of course there are such communities already. It'll be interesting if a better one emerges :-)
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Apr 23, 2009 16:01 UTC (Thu) by tkitch (guest, #58222) [Link]
Disclaimer (I work for MontaVista)
>> Why don't people just post on main Linux mailing lists?
Good question. MontaVista has worked with many open source communities since our inception 10 years ago, and we're the top embedded company to contribute to the Linux kernel. With this experience and history, we have found that there is no community that is exclusively focused on embedded Linux. They either focus on specific areas of Linux related technology, or are more generalized Linux communities. Let me explainÂ…
Existing Linux communities focus on developing open source projects, this includes Enterprise, desktop and embedded. For example like glibc, the Linux kernel, and hundreds of userland applications, developers are focused on improving their specific software projects and has little to do with other micro-communities. There is overlap of community members; however there is relatively little overlap between software in these communities.
Meld fills this gap by providing an environment to pull the software from all these communities together for the purpose of delivering embedded devices.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 10, 2009 5:50 UTC (Tue) by tdwebste (guest, #18154) [Link]
With 3 rpm Linux distributions and not one deb, I feel out of place in this group.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 12, 2009 1:40 UTC (Thu) by Ze (guest, #54182) [Link]
Your not alone although I started using Ubuntu as a development base. I'm tempted to change to debian-testing/unstable..
I'd love to find out where good embedded development discussion goes on and see how other people are doing things.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 13, 2009 22:53 UTC (Fri) by wookey (subscriber, #5501) [Link]
For debian-based stuff debian-embedded@lists.debian.org is pretty good - primarily focussed on emdebian tools and distros, but also cross-building on debian-based systems in general.
There is a linux-embedded mailing list for kernel stuff. elinux.org (CELF) contains good info but no forum/list SFAIK, and is one of the few places that is not distro-specific. There are numerous other channels and lists for specific distros (handhelds, OE, buildcross, PTXdist), but there is a bit of a dearth of places for general discussion about how things are best done. It's a fragmented community and a lot of things _are_ distro/architecture/hardware specific but there is also a place for wider discussion. I reckon CELF is better-placed than most to fill such a role, but it's always hard to achieve critical mass in these things.
Company-sponsored fora _can_ be very good (See the Navitron forum for a successful and useful example in a different field (Renewable Energy), but usually aren't, and the problem of censorship/self-censorship is always there.
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Apr 23, 2009 16:03 UTC (Thu) by tkitch (guest, #58222) [Link]
Ze:
>> I'd love to find out where good embedded development discussion goes on and see how other people are doing things.
Glad to hear it. We'd love to see you over at http://meld.mvista.com
New Online Community for Developers of Embedded Linux Devices (LinuxElectrons) Posted Mar 11, 2009 14:36 UTC (Wed) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497) [Link]
So now there are three unrelated things called Meld (the other two are a graphical diff/merge tool and an HTML templating language).
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