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What are you trying to say exactly?

What are you trying to say exactly?

Posted May 14, 2003 23:56 UTC (Wed) by pavlov (guest, #11197)
In reply to: What are you trying to say exactly? by roskegg
Parent article: Christopher Blizzard of mozilla.org Speaks on the Firebird Naming Conflict (MozillaZine)

"I am not surprised Apple chose to work with the Konqueror team instead of the Mozilla team."

Uh, if you remember correctly Apple worked in secret on this for quite some time. It wasn't until they released the first beta that the Konqueror team had any idea they were using it.


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Secrets in the software industry? Hah!

Posted May 15, 2003 5:43 UTC (Thu) by roskegg (subscriber, #105) [Link]

In my years in the industry, I have yet to observe a sizeable secret that was unknown to some key developers in the Free Software project it concerned. Apple definately had let key developers in on the secret, but under NDA. Just because YOU didn't know about it didn't mean noone knew about it. I stick by my assertion that politics and personalities had a large role in Apples choice between khtml and gecko, even if it was indirectly.

Jonathan Walther
Debian Developer

Secrets in the software industry? Hah!

Posted May 15, 2003 8:36 UTC (Thu) by pavlov (guest, #11197) [Link]

No, Sorry, wrong. I was under NDA and did know about it nearly a year before it was announced. Apple could not, and did not, come to the KDE developers because asking them to sign an NDA would have set off alarms and if they didn't sign they would have started rumors.

Secrets in the software industry? Hah!

Posted May 15, 2003 18:58 UTC (Thu) by erikharrison (guest, #11204) [Link]

So, previously you state that there is something rotten in the state of Mozilla, and only your in-view (which you will not reveal) allows you to see through the skein of Blizzard's lies. Now you claim that Apple also sees this corruption and secretly worked with the KDE team to avoid it, then lied in public to cover that secrecy and their hatred of the project?

What?

Sir, as someone who respects what the FirebirdSQL project has been through prior to this debacle, I'm offended that you offer this name calling and conspiricy theory in defense of it. What respect the project has will be destroyed by statements like this. While no one will come off clean from this, and both sides (and, it seems, the moderators) have acted badly, FirebirdSQL *is* a small project, and does not need this kind of reputation. Google rank be damned, you make them look bad in the mind of the developer community.

Secrets in the software industry? Hah!

Posted May 15, 2003 19:18 UTC (Thu) by msutherland (guest, #11201) [Link]

> I'm offended that you offer this name calling and conspiricy theory in defense of it.

Good.

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