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Microsoft sues TomTomMicrosoft sues TomTomPosted Feb 26, 2009 0:38 UTC (Thu) by leoc (subscriber, #39773)Parent article: Microsoft sues TomTom
Well, at least this helps me decide what brand of GPS unit to get. Any recommendations on a particular TomTom model?
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Microsoft sues TomTom Posted Feb 26, 2009 11:17 UTC (Thu) by ewan (subscriber, #5533) [Link] Before you decide that your enemies enemy is your friend you might want to google "tomtom gpl" a bit. It would appear that TomTom had to be forced into licence compliance by gpl-violations.org in the first place, followed by later claims that the source they make available no longer corresponds to the code that's actually on the current devices.
Microsoft sues TomTom Posted Feb 26, 2009 12:31 UTC (Thu) by lacostej (guest, #2760) [Link]
If so, the FSF should require the correct code to be released before they provide their help (if TomTom wants it).
Microsoft sues TomTom Posted Feb 26, 2009 13:14 UTC (Thu) by armijn (subscriber, #3653) [Link]
The FSF can, of course, only require that for code they actually have copyrights on, which in case of TomTom is not much at all (and which seems to be in compliance anyway). The report on the mailinglist was from over a year ago and was resolved successfully.
Microsoft sues TomTom Posted Feb 26, 2009 22:41 UTC (Thu) by wookey (subscriber, #5501) [Link]
It's true that tomtom didn't provide source when it first started shipping devices back in 2003/4, but it quickly fixed that when Harald and co gave them a hard time, and accepted that that was the right and proper thing to dso. I did some work for them shortly after that time and was impressed with the technical guys still running it, who were smart enough to employ some of the people who had accused them to work on their 2.6 kernel port (as opposed to wanting never to hear from them again). I don't think many companies are that smart.
Having not been involved for the last 4 years I can't say anything about their current attitude/business practices, and the recent failure to supply corresponding code does suggest some backsliding, but in a fight between a purveyor of very fine navigation devices that despises software patents and has been using a linux base for a very long time, and an overbearing patent bully with some thoroughly crappy patents (read them!), I know who's side I'm on.
Of course sorting out their GPL compliance immideiately, if not sooner, would be a really good idea if they want us all to help fight their corner.
Tomtom do now have some patents of their own (28 in EPO, not all software, 269 worldwide, according to espacenet), but I think they can make good case for only doing this as a defensive measure. Their first EPO application was 2005-09.
Tomtom has already had a complicated fight with Garmin who have sued them over various patents on car navigation systems in feb 2006, followed by much countersuing. I guess they'll be thoroughly unimpressed with the swpat situation by now.
In a sensible world anyone would just be able to make satnavs and consumers could choose which ones they liked best. Trying to own the various ideas and techniques involved is just wrong.
Microsoft sues TomTom Posted Mar 4, 2009 14:44 UTC (Wed) by fieroboom (guest, #56956) [Link]
I have a TomTom One V3. Bought it on eBay for $75 shipped. I like it because it's very moddable. I cracked it open, soldered in a 4GB SD card, then upgraded the bootloader, loaded Tomplayer, and Navcore 8 with version 8 maps, so now I have a TomTom that can play MP3s, videos, and has text-to-speech (tells me the road names), and Advanced Lane Guidance (tells you exactly what lane to be in). There's still more I can do with it too.
I personally think MS is grabbing at thin air, and trying to kick TT while they're down, so to speak. MS has already been warned (a couple of times) about non compliance with anti trust sanctions (aka being too much of a monopoly). Do they really need more money? Yes, a patent is a patent, but man, some of those patents are analgous to one of us saying "Hey, you can't use that shovel... I've patented that method of digging".
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