|| ||Bruno Wolff III <bruno-AT-wolff.to>|
|| ||Adam Williamson <awilliam-AT-redhat.com>|
|| ||Re: RawhideBlocker [was Re: QA group activities + goals discussion]|
|| ||Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:43:43 -0600|
|| ||For testers of Fedora Core development releases
|| ||Article, Thread
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:52:38 -0800,
Adam Williamson <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Sure. Stuff breaks in development branches. This is why all instructions
> relating to Rawhide specifically state that you should install it on a
> test system, test partition, or test virtual machine. So that when it
> breaks you can shrug and go 'oh, well' rather than screaming and going
> 'NOOOOoooo, my precious work!'
I still curse, but usually because it happens when I wanted to do something
and stupidly did an update just before then. I haven't lost data because
of using rawhide in a long time, and then happened when I accidentally
installed to the wrong partition when I was doing a lot of rawhide installs to
help track down a driver problem.
> We're not really talking about 'normal users' running Rawhide, anyway.
> We're talking about people who are interested in helping improve release
> quality and testing bleeding-edge code, who can at least work a text
> editor from a console, and have the flexibility to understand that
> Rawhide stuff *will* break occasionally and they'll have to work around
I think people need to be able to significantly more than use a text
editor. You need to be able to rescue your system when booting fails.
I think you pretty much need to be an amateur sysadm.
> The point is that this pool of people is in fact far larger than the
> number of people who currently run Rawhide. It should at least include
> the vast majority of packagers, yet from what I've seen, it seems that a
> lot of Fedora packagers only run stable releases, which is a pretty
> reliable indicator that we really could have more people running
I think going for the vast majority of Packagers might be overly optimistic.
Besides needing sysadm skills, you also need good bandwith.
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