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KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge softwareKDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge softwarePosted Jan 28, 2009 20:12 UTC (Wed) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861)In reply to: KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge software by yokem_55 Parent article: KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge software
That's great, but it certainly doesn't mean that there's no room for people who want software that "just works" and don't WANT to participate at ANY level. Those people DO have an option with FOSS: they can pay for it! Then they can support FOSS with their money instead of their time... there are many people who would rather pay money than spend the time and that's perfectly legitimate IMO.
But, those people will not/should not be using Fedora. They should find some commercial distribution where they can pay for and receive supported, tested distributions.
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KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge software Posted Jan 29, 2009 1:11 UTC (Thu) by qg6te2 (guest, #52587) [Link] But, those people will not/should not be using Fedora. They should find some commercial distribution where they can pay for and receive supported, tested distributions.I respectfully disagree with this assertion. If one were to pay for a desktop system then the best bang-for-buck is buying a Mac, which has a much more polished and integrated interface. Alas, as we all know it's not open source. OSS projects like Fedora and KDE have the implied responsibility of not releasing less than half-baked goods, of which KDE 4.0 is a prime example. Continuing this free-wheeling super-bleeding-edge approach carries a high risk of dissuading users, be they new or experienced (ala Torvalds). Suggesting that we should all buy RHEL instead (due to more quality assurances) conveniently side-steps the fact that the people behind Fedora should think more about the trade-off between pain (in the form of unusable software) and newness (i.e. new features).
KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge software Posted Jan 29, 2009 1:29 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
there are _many_ distros between the bleeding edge of Fedora and the ultra conservative RHEL extremes.
most of them do not money (although many do offer paid support as an option), and many of them would be a better choice than Fedora.
Fedora very defiantly has a place, there will always be some distro that's on the bleeding edge and trying new things. but to say (or even strongly imply) that everyone should be using either it or RHEL is very wrong.
KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge software Posted Jan 29, 2009 18:56 UTC (Thu) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link]
First, as dlang said there are a LOT of options between Fedora and RHEL.
Second, you've changed the conversation to be "if I want to buy a new computer, what should I buy?", but I'm talking about choosing a Linux distribution. That may involve buying a new computer, but it might also just mean something to install on the computer you already have.
For the record I'm not sure I agree with your assertion about "bang for the buck"; Macs cost quite a few more bucks than you can get an equivalently-powered system running Linux for. Whether that justifies the extra bang you get depends on all sorts of factors which are wildly different for different people. Linux desktop technology has come far enough, now, that its "bang" is equivalent to, and even bigger than, Macs for at least some purposes.
KDE 4, distributors, and bleeding-edge software Posted Jan 29, 2009 19:10 UTC (Thu) by dkite (guest, #4577) [Link]
>implied responsibility of not releasing
Maybe you can point to where that discussion took place and everyone agreed.
Derek
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