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Kwin improvementsKwin improvementsPosted Jan 28, 2009 0:07 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104)In reply to: Kwin improvements by wstephenson Parent article: KDE 4.2.0 Release OK, I tried it with KDE included with Fedora 10 (that's version 4.1.4). I configured Alt-Esc to lower the window. However, it would not change the keyboard focus. That is, the keystrokes would go to the lowered window. Moreover, I cannot hold Alt and press Esc to cycle between windows. Apparently, the subsequent Alt-Esc would try to lower the same window. Speaking of physical models, it's like I take a document on top of a pile, put it to the bottom and then write on it. Not very intuitive. If I lower something, it means I want to have another window on top. My intention is to work with the window that appears on top, not with the window I put to the back. My impression is that KDE tries to frustrate users who prefer the keyboard to the mouse. New versions try it even harder. Is it really so hard to implement Alt-Esc properly? Windows 95 had it. I think even Windows 3.1 had it. I'm sure it's easier to do than wobbling windows on a rotating cube. No, I'm not a userspace developer. I didn't have any success with making KDE use IceWM, but it would be quite pointless anyway. I can run every application from IceWM without having KDE running. The reason I want to run KDE is to use actively maintained software. But it looks like the goals of the project are incompatible with my physical abilities :-(
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Kwin improvements Posted Jan 28, 2009 0:46 UTC (Wed) by yokem_55 (subscriber, #10498) [Link]
Just curious, is there a bug report on b.k.o where this could be tracked on?
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 28, 2009 9:43 UTC (Wed) by wstephenson (subscriber, #14795) [Link]
Bugs was down yesterday evening, but I've taken the liberty of filing it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182146
Oh, and the environment variable to change the windowmanager is KDEWM, my mistake.
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 28, 2009 17:51 UTC (Wed) by wstephenson (subscriber, #14795) [Link]
And it's fixed - thanks, Lucas!
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 28, 2009 7:31 UTC (Wed) by Adi (guest, #52678) [Link]
Standard question: have you filled a bug report?
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 28, 2009 10:18 UTC (Wed) by lmurray (guest, #56356) [Link]
Thank you for (Indirectly) informing us of this bug. I have made the change to current trunk and will backport it to KDE 4.2.1 shortly.
If you come across any more keyboard-unfriendly actions feel free to open a bug report on http://bugs.kde.org .
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 28, 2009 20:24 UTC (Wed) by roblucid (subscriber, #48964) [Link]
From the Bugzilla :
Opened: 2009-01-28 10:33 Last Changed: 2009-01-28 11:31:35
Awesome!
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 29, 2009 0:07 UTC (Thu) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] I didn't feel good about opening a bug without being a KDE user or even intending to use it. However, I'm impressed by the positive reaction to my comment, so I may reconsider. Thank you very much!
Kwin improvements Posted Jan 30, 2009 7:13 UTC (Fri) by cventers (subscriber, #31465) [Link]
I am a KDE user... I've filed a few bug reports before that were fixed in a jiffy just like this one. Always puts a big smile on my face :p
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