Suse Studio: Linux customization for the masses (CNET)
[Posted January 23, 2009 by ris]
Matt Asay takes a look
at SUSE Studio. "Nat Friedman, Novell's chief technology and
strategy officer for open source, has been working on Suse Studio for some
time, but it was at VMworld in September that Novell first publicly
demonstrated the product. Since then, Novell has not said much publicly
about the alpha-stage product. That's too bad, as this may well be one of
the industry's most exciting and transformational software releases in
years."
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The Dumbest Rubbish I have seen in years
Posted Jan 25, 2009 4:57 UTC (Sun) by brianomahoney (subscriber, #6206)
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We do ___NOT___ need this junk, or agrandizment, for every idiot who
believes in this stuff who would rather that developers didnt break things
so often +-+-regressions+-+-, so lets get useful things done and try to
avoid disfunctional disasters like kde 4.0.
There is s new tipping point, where developers/release-managers dont think
that they are bound by traditional virtues, but in the core (kernel, gcc,
X, DBs ... ) we are.
Not everyone in M$ is as dumb as Steve Balmer.
???
Posted Jan 25, 2009 11:25 UTC (Sun) by niner (subscriber, #26151)
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Could you please explain the contents of your posting? Maybe it's just because English
is not my native language, but what you were trying to say just escapes me.
Thanks.
???
Posted Jan 26, 2009 4:47 UTC (Mon) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047)
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It's not just you, niner. English IS my native language, and I didn't get it either.
???
Posted Jan 26, 2009 7:14 UTC (Mon) by lakeland (subscriber, #1157)
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It's not because English is not your native tongue, the post is nonsensical.
My personal theory is the post was generated by a Makov sentence generator - like the ones
that were all the rage a few years ago. The thing I find most interesting is trying to imagine a
person that knows what aggrandizement means and yet has such a weak grasp of the English
language as to come up with a phrase as "...for every idiot who believes in this stuff who
would...". Fascinating stuff :)
I did wonder if it was a babel-fish translation. Attempting to make sense of it I get the
following:
1. We don't need stuff like this.
2. Regressions are bad (KDE 3.5 works in instances that KDE 4 fails)
3. Developers and Release managers don't believe we're bound by traditional values
(presumably, no regressions) but we are.
4. MS has some smart people working for them (presumably, taking advantage of our bad
releases).
*shrug*
I have no idea how this relates to SUSE studio. Maybe they just hate Novell?
You have very weak imagination then...
Posted Jan 26, 2009 7:44 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
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The thing I find most interesting is trying to imagine a
person that knows what aggrandizement means and yet has such a weak grasp
of the English language as to come up with a phrase as "...for every idiot
who believes in this stuff who would...".
Heh. Actually any
non-native speaker with a dictionary. I have a friend who had poor
knowledge of English and used multitran to compensate. Mutritran is good
dictionary, but it has one flaw: possible tranlations of the word to
English are sorted alphabetically (most dictionaries place common
translations above and less common below)! Result was text in English where
literally every other word was used with uncommon and unfamiliar (to
English speaker) meaning!
You have very weak imagination then...
Posted Jan 26, 2009 8:17 UTC (Mon) by lakeland (subscriber, #1157)
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You're probably right.
I did a quick google search for Brian O'Mahoney's other posts and the signature "mit freundlichen
Grüßen" (with friendly greetings, if my rusty German is right) tends to imply English is not his first
language either.
So that does lead a lot more weight to the mistranslation theory.
I still think the post is terribly written - sorry Brian.
The Dumbest Rubbish I have seen in years
Posted Jan 25, 2009 15:00 UTC (Sun) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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Nat is highly competent. I'm inclined to trust his judgement on this kind of thing, and the demonstrations are genuinely impressive.
The Dumbest Rubbish I have seen in years
Posted Jan 26, 2009 11:28 UTC (Mon) by aseigo (guest, #18394)
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Having actually used Suse Studio bot to play around as well as to get useful work done, I can say that the demonstrations aren't over promising anything. It's a very slick tool, and KDE is even using it now to create VMs for use by reviewers in the press to create a more consistent and easier experience. The integration with the build service is brilliant.
I really hope it exits beta soon so more people out there can take advantage of it.
Suse Studio: Linux customization for the masses (CNET)
Posted Jan 25, 2009 14:55 UTC (Sun) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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If by "VMworld in September" he means "OSCON in July", perhaps, but it really doesn't result in me having warm fuzzies about the quality of journalism.
Suse Studio: Linux customization for the masses (CNET)
Posted Jan 26, 2009 13:54 UTC (Mon) by clugstj (subscriber, #4020)
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I don't know about the product "Suse Studio", but the article is pretty much contentless. The author touts the product as the best thing since sliced bread, but then doesn't give any actual information about the product. Phrases like "supportability algorithm" mean nothing.
Suse Studio: Linux customization for the masses (CNET)
Posted Jan 26, 2009 22:25 UTC (Mon) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953)
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From an article I read somewhere about it(might have been a slashdot link to the same article) comments basically said you can role your own distribution and SUSE will support it. Apparently they have developed this "supportability" checker that can go through the distribution you've made and check if the necessary components are there for SUSE to offer comprehensive support for the variation.
It didn't sound particularly impressive to me but a contributer that worked at Lineo said they built an SDK that would let customers roll their own distribution but could never figure out how to support the millions of variations that would occur. Apparently SUSE has solved this problem.
Suse Studio: Linux customization for the masses (CNET)
Posted Jan 27, 2009 6:23 UTC (Tue) by nikanth (guest, #50093)
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I have used the beta suse studio to create distros on pendrive with the right software/config and special scripts for my friends who are Linux newbies... Quiet useful!