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a minor quibble (squared)

a minor quibble (squared)

Posted Dec 10, 2008 19:54 UTC (Wed) by AnswerGuy (guest, #1256)
In reply to: a minor quibble by JoeBuck
Parent article: Interview: Vernor Vinge

The informal concept of "free software" predates the formal movement by RMS. Early "applications" software was published in printed form without any expectation that it was covered by any license or copyrights. It was the fruits of, and part of an iterative process of the research.

Quite a bit of early software created by end-users was printed in the nascent community newsletters in an era that pre-dated e-mail, faxes, and far, far pre-dated "the web." Other bits of it were "published" over UUCP/Netnews (both of which were early examples of free software).

Shareware emerged primarily from PCs (IBM compatible microcomputers) and Macs. These were machines which made binary distribution of software feasible. This meant large numbers of "sites" or "units" with relatively uniform OS (run-time environments). Shareware made more sense in a world where you had this large potential customer base, and where those end user machines usually didn't include a compiler and tool chain. (Not only was the source code unnecessary for that deployment, it was useless to most of its potential user base).

Anyway, shareware was largely a digression from truly free software. GPL and BSD are evolutions from public domain publications (source listings).


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origins of free software

Posted Dec 12, 2008 18:59 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

I think it's pretty clear Vinge is using FSF terminology ("free software" is free as in freedom, not as in free beer), so that software published without any copyright reserved would not qualify as free software. (It's not free because someone can capture it. He does that by extending it to the point of obsoleting the original, then restricting use of the extended code).

However, I think most of the wonderfulness he attributes to free software is really just the wonderfulness of software. And the few points that do involve copyright would hold just as well for public domain software as for free/copyleft/GPL software.

origins of free software

Posted Dec 23, 2008 12:01 UTC (Tue) by robbe (guest, #16131) [Link]

> I think it's pretty clear Vinge is using FSF terminology
> ("free software" is free as in freedom, not as in free beer),
> so that software published without any copyright reserved would
> not qualify as free software.

Doubtful. The FSF terms this kind of software (the most prominent
examples being BSD/MIT licensed works) "non copylefted free software".
See
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#Non-Copylef...

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