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Amarok 2.0 released

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 10, 2008 18:34 UTC (Wed) by martinfick (subscriber, #4455)
In reply to: Amarok 2.0 released by az
Parent article: Amarok 2.0 released

Wow, your comment is the epitome of what went wrong with KDE4. Users who expect 100% on the first release despite the announcement clearly stating it will not be!

Mind you I have not used amarok 2.x, but it does look like a great improvement over 1.x in the layout. I look forward to using it and understand that it may not be 100% feature complete with 1.x. When it meets enough of my needs I will migrate to it. In the meantime I can be happy with 1.x and have lost nothing. What have you lost that you are so bitter?


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Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 10, 2008 20:31 UTC (Wed) by kerick (subscriber, #53036) [Link]

Personally, I can't stand the loss of being able to queue songs. I will use Songbird until Amarok regains some of the simple features that help me enjoy my music.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 10, 2008 22:54 UTC (Wed) by oblio (guest, #33465) [Link]

So it doesn't shuffle or queue songs or filter playlists? For such an advanced player, if these features are missing, it's pretty strange, IMHO.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 10, 2008 23:32 UTC (Wed) by xorbe (subscriber, #3165) [Link]

Because it seems that KDE4 is never going to catch up with KDE3 in usable features, yet KDE4 is already significantly slower. Sluggish pointless enhancements appear to be the goal.

Someone should fork KDE3 and bring in any decent parts of 4.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 11, 2008 0:08 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Um, generally when one is working on a new framework one gets the
framework working, *then* optimizes it.

It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that KDE will speed up in
subsequent releases. (Some incredibly slothful things in KDE3 seem to be
fixed: I was forced into switching by Konsole's appallingly slow scrolling
under load in 3.5.x: you could see a wave of repainting creeping down the
screen at about five lines per second, on an Athlon IV with a load of only
2.5 or so...)

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 11, 2008 19:39 UTC (Thu) by xorbe (subscriber, #3165) [Link]

Yeah, Konsole in KDE4 is one of my frustrations. It's just a lot slower, visibly using shift + left/right. I use KDE and Emacs all day.

It's been a year already (well on Jan 4th, 2009). kwin still crashes and restarts regularly. My faster desktop feels slower than my "slower" laptop with KDE3.

No, I didn't use KDE1/KDE2, I was on OSF/1 + twm in those days...

My apology, it wasn't a troll, but I don't always communicate my thoughts well. Yeah I was venting some frustration though, I feel like KDE has gone backwards in ways.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 12, 2008 0:09 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Konsole in KDE4 is even *slower* than the Konsole in KDE3 for you?
Interesting: it's enormously faster for me (at least at scrolling under
load, the only thing for which it was dog slow in KDE3).

Maybe I screwed up my KDE3 somehow...

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 12, 2008 17:37 UTC (Fri) by robertknight (subscriber, #42536) [Link]

> Yeah, Konsole in KDE4 is one of my frustrations.
> It's just a lot slower, visibly using shift + left/right.
> I use KDE and Emacs all day.

It isn't universally slower. In particular with a 'friendly' set of hardware (Intel graphics) it should be much faster than in KDE 3.5 for general usage, in particular scrolling and working with large windows of text. There were problems with very poor performance under NVidia or when using bitmap fonts. I believe the NVidia problems are fixed with the latest drivers but the bitmap font bug remains.

Either way, if you're using the terminal heavily then please do take a few minutes to report the bug on bugs.kde.org or email konsole-devel@kde.org.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 11, 2008 0:20 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

what makes you say that "KDE4 is never going to catch up with KDE3 in usable features"

'never' is a very strong statement.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 11, 2008 9:41 UTC (Thu) by pointwood (guest, #2814) [Link]

Dear troll, please return to Slashdot or even better, create your own blog and post your useless comments there.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 11, 2008 14:30 UTC (Thu) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]

Let me guess. You weren't around for the KDE 2->3 transition, were you?

If I'm wrong and you were, you don't appear to be very good at spotting patterns.

Amarok 2.0 released

Posted Dec 11, 2008 15:54 UTC (Thu) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]

KDE 2->3 was comparatively an insignificant transition: the major version bump was only because Qt increased by a major version. You must be thinking of KDE 1->2.

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