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IBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offeringIBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offeringPosted Dec 4, 2008 19:51 UTC (Thu) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545)In reply to: IBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offering by sbergman27 Parent article: IBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offering
> regardless of the net benefits to FOSS.
It is not "regardless of the net benefits to FOSS". We believe that there is a net __loss__ of benefits to FOSS arising from ubunto's incorporation of proprietary drivers into their product line. From this point of view Ubunto is aiding and abetting the enemy.
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IBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offering Posted Dec 4, 2008 20:11 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]
Which demonstrates that you are more interested, for whatever reason, in stamping out software that you do not like than in promoting software you like.
When you say "we", are you presuming to speak for Fedora? The Fedora community? Just you and Jef? Who is "we"? Do the other members of "we" agree with you?
IBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offering Posted Dec 4, 2008 21:41 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
There is a inherent tension between promoting FOSS and promoting proprietary software if your support for Free software is principled rather than just on a case by case basis. FSF has demonstrated that conflict repeatedly but there are other efforts as well.
Benjamin Mako Hill did a presentation which offers the perspective that pointing out flaws in day to day life with using proprietary software may be a better tactics than just pointing out advantages of using Free software
http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/20080808-00
The website http://revealingerrors.com/ from him is very interesting. You might consider that negative marketing and perhaps it is but I wouldn't be dismissive of the effectiveness of this strategy.
IBM's new Ubuntu-based desktop offering Posted Dec 8, 2008 11:13 UTC (Mon) by Janne (guest, #40891) [Link]
If those drivers help make the system usable, more power to them. On my Fedora-laptop, my WiFi does not work. I spent 30 minutes trying to get it to work, but no use. So I decided to replace fedora with something else (not just because of that, there were other reasons as well). So how did that benefit Free Softtware in any shape or form? I had a laptop that did not function properly. Had I been a user migrating from Windows or Mac to Linux, I would have gotten the impression that Linux is crap. Again: where is the benefit for free software?
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