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Fedora release cycles: longer or shorter?Fedora release cycles: longer or shorter?Posted Nov 13, 2008 6:45 UTC (Thu) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750)Parent article: Fedora release cycles: longer or shorter?
I think it should be noted that the best advertised feature in Ubuntu 8.10 desktop edition, easy 3G support, was developed by a Finnish summer-coder (http://www.coss.fi/web/coss/developers/summercode). I don't know if it has been integrated into Fedora yet (libmbca and the related operator database).
Of course, Network Manager 0.7 itself is largely a Red Hat project, but Ubuntu didn't even include it before and Fedora has had two release cycles (Fedora 8 and 9) of time to take credit for NM0.7 sweetness as such.
Same goes for Fedora's kernel-based mode setting, GEM support in Fedora 10 - Fedora-unique features.
But I agree people should not focus _that_ much on the credit issues, but FLOSS advancement in general. And others are free to copy anything community-wise from Ubuntu, because that's what has made it so popular, not the technical aspects.
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Fedora release cycles: longer or shorter? Posted Nov 13, 2008 10:44 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]
The difference, is that Fedora makes the effort to merge all its stuff upstream, where it can easily be copied by others, whereas Ubuntu generally does not feel like upstreaming the config tweaks which are most of its contributions is useful.
In other words, Fedora's biggest problem is that it is a good community citizen, while Ubuntu benefits from not being one.
Fedora release cycles: longer or shorter? Posted Nov 13, 2008 12:54 UTC (Thu) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]
I think this has been already discussed and people agree to disagree. From my point of view Canonical is mostly doing what it can with the current amount of employees, and they are both aiming to improve still and are also hiring more people even they may never match even half of the amount Red Hat has. But I also agree that Fedora is a _very_ good citizen, partially because of the resources it has and partially because their vision of freedom. I hope Fedora will gather more user community and helping hands everywhere.
Fedora release cycles: longer or shorter? Posted Nov 14, 2008 23:04 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
Dan Williams mentored the student project.
http://www.kaijanmaki.net/blog/2008/03/24/networkmanager-...
Part of the project plan included a Ubuntu package specifically as a deliverable.
Let me note something very clearly. A Red Hat employee, upstream NM project developer, and Fedora contributor agree to mentor the project. A project with a plan which included Ubuntu deliverables. Isn't that interesting?
Now cynics would suggest this was a missed opportunity for Fedora. It's not and let me tell you why. The important thing here was that this work was driven upstream as a primary goal of the project...not a secondary one. That's is part of Fedora's principled approach to building a distribution..to move as much innovation into upstream projects as possible because that's how we all benefit. The student, the Ubuntu community member, got the priorities right. If only Canonical employees could understand the importance of setting those priorities in the right order.
I'll leave you with this hypothetical. If a Canonical employee had been the mentor, instead of a Red Hat employee who is deeply involved in NM development, would libmbca be an upstream GNOME module right now? Or would it be stashed in the corner of launchpad along with a set of patches against NM?
-jef
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