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Fedora 10 preview release
We've been cooking, and now it's time for a final taste test! The Fedora Project is proud to announce the availability of the Fedora 10 Preview Release. The Fedora 10 Preview Release is our last pre-release offering before we let everyone taste the goods for real. https://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease Doesn't it smell yummy? We know you can't resist, and we don't want you to. We want everyone in the Fedora community to take an early sample and tell us what you find. The recipe is pretty good, but now is the time to make it perfect. Ingredients include: * Faster boot using Plymouth * Wireless connection sharing * Better printing * Enhanced software update and maintenance, from RPM 4.6 to PackageKit * Virtualization storage * SecTool, security audit and intrusion detection system * Glitch free audio using timer-based scheduling And, since this is Fedora, we don't have anything to hide. Take a peek at what is in the not-so-secret sauce by looking at our Release Notes in the Fedora Project wiki. We use 100% pure free and open source software here, none of that high-fructose proprietary stuff. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes Most of you should get a very tasty treat, but some of you might experience a little bitterness. Don't fret - all is not lost - there is still time to improve the recipe before we share it with the world. Head over to the Fedora Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com) and let us know what offended your palate. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report File bugs here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&... If you'd like to interact with the chefs more directly, join the live staff in the kitchen by coming to #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net, or leave a message on the corkboard by the back door: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Ready to get your free preview sample? Go ahead and swipe one straight from the oven - we don't mind. Put on your favorite heat resistant BitTorrent mitt and grab one of the following goodies. Take as many as you like. Thanks for tasting! https://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease P.S. Please remember that as we run a public mirror system, the mirrors for Fedora 10 Preview will not all be ready at this time, and may become overloaded as the day goes on. If you receive permission denied messages, please continue trying until you get through. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list (Log in to post comments)
Fedora 10 preview release Posted Nov 4, 2008 17:44 UTC (Tue) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439) [Link]
"We use 100% pure free and open source software here, none of that high-fructose proprietary stuff."
AFAIK they still ship proprietary firmware, no?
Fedora 10 preview release Posted Nov 5, 2008 0:32 UTC (Wed) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link]
Yes, as long as it is freely redistributable.
We can't tell if it is actually proprietary of course. See my earlier rants on this subject - a binary blob uploaded to a hardware device could be anything from an entire operating system for an onboard microprocessor through to a picture of the designer's dog used as seed data. It may be that what we have in some or even many cases is the same data the engineers working on the product use and there is no "source code" hidden from us, even if we had the tools to use it.
We don't ever know about hidden layers. Imagine Steve Harris chose to ship his LADSPA plugins as plain C. There's a common structure to the plugins, but that's to be expected given how one writes LADSPA code. Without the build infrastructure and XML source you'd never know that the "real" source code is XML processed with Perl. On the other hand, if you break down the doors and search my house, you won't find any XML source for my LADSPA plugins, I really wrote them in C.
In the past (and perhaps still today) Fedora has included other non-software elements that have a no-modify clause on their redistribution rights. Fonts for example, as well as I believe stock images or sounds. I don't know if that continues.
But it has been free software all along the way.
Fedora 10 preview release Posted Nov 5, 2008 1:47 UTC (Wed) by jebba (✭ supporter ✭, #4439) [Link]
>>> We use 100% pure free and open source software here, none of that high-fructose proprietary stuff.
>> AFAIK they still ship proprietary firmware, no?
> Yes, as long as it is freely redistributable.
Yes, but freely redistributable != free software. It hasn't been free software all along the way. Assuming they are shipping the intel wifi and such that they have over the years, then they are not shipping 100% free software. If they've dropped non-free software for f10 I'd be happy to hear it. :)
Fedora 10 preview release Posted Nov 5, 2008 18:54 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
David Woodhouse (and others) have been working in upstream towards separating out firmware in a proper way instead of distribution specific hacks.
http://lwn.net/Articles/284932/
In rawhide, kernel-firmware is a separate package as a result. When this work is completed, it would be easier to move firmware out without causing too many regressions in hardware support.
Fedora 10 preview release Posted Nov 5, 2008 9:36 UTC (Wed) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]
> In the past (and perhaps still today) Fedora has included other
> non-software elements that have a no-modify clause on their redistribution > rights. Fonts for example,
Non-modifiable fonts have been purged for the F9 release and are not allowed back in
And saying fonts are not software is discutable, given all the Truetype instructions magic that exists.
netbook support? Posted Nov 4, 2008 18:28 UTC (Tue) by atai (subscriber, #10977) [Link]
There is no mentioning of support for EEE PC or like devices. Does Fedora 10 work better on such machines?
netbook support? Posted Nov 5, 2008 11:58 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
Yes.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EeeP
On the latest model, the wireless card has been switched from Atheros
netbook support? Posted Nov 5, 2008 18:51 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
Yes, that was a copy/paste error. Also refer
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeremyKatz/Netbooks
There is substantial work being done on many netbooks to make them work well. Fedora also has been working on merging changes upstream as well.
netbook support? Posted Nov 6, 2008 10:30 UTC (Thu) by smorovic (guest, #52892) [Link]
There is the new hp_wmi driver in 2.6.27 which I use to individually turn on/off BT, wireless and HSDPA radio (added the rfkill interface) on recent HP laptops (6710B here).
Before, I had to power on any of these devices in Windows and then reboot to get them powered up in Linux. The module however still turns every device on when loaded (Windows preserves state), and has to be modprobe'd manually. Control is in /sys/class/rfkill/rfkillX/state.
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