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Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

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Subject:  Ubuntu 8.10 released
Date:  Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:11:31 -0700
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The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop and Server,
continuing Ubuntu's tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open
source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution.

Read more about the features of Ubuntu 8.10 in the following press releases:

  Desktop edition    http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.10-desktop
  Server edition     http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.10-server

Ubuntu 8.10 will be supported for 18 months on both desktops and servers.
Users requiring a longer support lifetime may choose to continue using
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS rather than upgrading to or installing 8.10.

Ubuntu 8.10 is also the basis for new 8.10 releases of Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and
UbuntuStudio:

  http://kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release
  http://xubuntu.org/news/intrepid/release
  http://ubuntustudio.org/8-10_release_note

To Get Ubuntu 8.10
------------------

To download Ubuntu 8.10, or obtain CDs, visit:

  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu

Because Ubuntu 8.04 LTS is a long-term support release, users of that
release will not be offered an automatic upgrade to 8.10 via Update Manager.
For instructions on upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10, see:

  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading

As always, upgrades to the latest version of Ubuntu are entirely free of
charge.

We recommend that all users read the release notes, which document
caveats and workarounds for known issues.  They are available at:

  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810

Find out what's new in this release with a graphical overview:

  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810overview

If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but
aren't sure, try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel, on the Ubuntu Users
mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:

  #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
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  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

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  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/

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Congratulations

Posted Oct 30, 2008 16:34 UTC (Thu) by kragil (subscriber, #34373) [Link]

Not a totally exciting release .. but upgrading was smooth (for my computers) and it seems very solid.

Thanks everyone!

I agree

Posted Oct 30, 2008 17:04 UTC (Thu) by leomilano (guest, #32220) [Link]

I second this, thank you everyone, including the larger Debian community and the FS community in general.

I think the Kubuntu release is exciting (there is the switch to KDE4), though I'll have to hold on because of the NVIDIA binary drivers issue ... doesn anyone know if a new binary driver for the latest xorg is in the works? Thanks!

Kubuntu's missing features

Posted Oct 30, 2008 21:29 UTC (Thu) by rvfh (subscriber, #31018) [Link]

nVidia drivers work fine for me, but the lack of Bluetooth is really a shame.

Kubuntu's missing features

Posted Oct 30, 2008 21:38 UTC (Thu) by hingo (guest, #14792) [Link]

I'm sorry what? What did they do to make bluetooth go away? It has worked for me since I started using Kubuntu.

Kubuntu's missing features

Posted Oct 31, 2008 7:22 UTC (Fri) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]

Apparently KDE does not yet support the newer Bluez 4.x stack required by the new kernel.

Kubuntu's missing features

Posted Oct 30, 2008 23:09 UTC (Thu) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

bluetooth is fine here...

Recommended NVidia blob version

Posted Oct 31, 2008 11:57 UTC (Fri) by sebas (subscriber, #51660) [Link]

If you're running version 177.80 of the nvidia binary driver, you should be OK. That version of the driver fixes most of the latency / drawing problems by accelerating certain Xrender operation that are extensively used by Qt and Cairo.

Release notes

Posted Oct 30, 2008 17:20 UTC (Thu) by johnkarp (subscriber, #39285) [Link]

It would be nice if the 'known issues' had links to the respective launchpad items. I say this because I'd like to know more about several of them, but its a pain to find the exact issue they're referring to; the bug titles are often quite different from the release notes call them.

Release notes

Posted Oct 30, 2008 17:22 UTC (Thu) by johnkarp (subscriber, #39285) [Link]

Well, I guess some of them do, but it would be nice if all of them did.

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Oct 30, 2008 17:30 UTC (Thu) by BaldHeadedGeek (guest, #1078) [Link]

I'm having sound card issues. Not dead but gstreamer behaving differently and no audio out of firefox (flash). Perhaps the newer kernel but haven't booted an older one to verify, will do later tonight.

I hate it when this happens.

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Oct 31, 2008 1:52 UTC (Fri) by BaldHeadedGeek (guest, #1078) [Link]

Looks to be the gstreamer update to 0.10.21-3 that is my problem. Also updated to latest flash to fix that audio.

So kernel OK.

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Oct 30, 2008 18:30 UTC (Thu) by pj (subscriber, #4506) [Link]

On the downside, I had a couple issues upgrading ndiswrapper on my laptop, but on the upside, xorg's new radeon driver Just Worked and video on it is now faster and smoother than ever before - even better than using the old binary driver!

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Oct 30, 2008 21:05 UTC (Thu) by drotle (guest, #54979) [Link]

For me X was the only part that did not work: no keyboard or mouse after the upgrade. Intrepid assumes a functioning hald. Restoring the old xorg.conf helps.

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Oct 31, 2008 23:50 UTC (Fri) by alspnost (guest, #2763) [Link]

Lovely. And it looks exactly the same. Which is fine, but we were promised more. What's new is that:
  • my machine can no longer shut down - it boots up fine, but shutting down requires a fat finger on the power button
  • jumping around tracks in a music player still doesn't work (rhythmbox just crashes, again). I know, cutting edge stuff, but hey...
  • burning music CDs doesn't work either, because brasero just crashes, every time. Yes, there are alternative apps, thank goodness
  • vhosts seems to have stopped working in Apache
  • it takes even longer to boot! Man, do I need a 3.33GHz quad core with 16GB RAM and and big-iron disk arrays just to boot in <1 minute? Whatever happened to the promise of upstart?
  • it still can't run an Intel PRO/E network card at 100MBit - that's right, it's back to 10Mbit networking again! Good thing my DSL is still just marginally slower than that, so there's no bottleneck
Sorry for the rant - I still love Linux, and it's still immeasurably superior in many ways, but I get frustrated sometimes. Which makes me want to go and buy a Mac. Or a stone tablet.

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Nov 1, 2008 5:43 UTC (Sat) by rbill (guest, #54993) [Link]

I, too, upgraded to the new release of Kubuntu. It did not go smoothly at all. :-/ My Dell Inspiron B120 (512 meg) ran just fine with Hardy. Now I have a lot of little pieces to play with. Some of the problems I experienced:

- It took 6 hours to do the upgrade; in addition to the 6 to download,
but that was not unexpected yesterday). The disk (40 gig, 25% full)
thrashed for hours. Eventually, adept_manager crashed. I managed to
get everything installed. My used disk space went from 25% to 60%
*after* deleting the download packages! Whoa!

- After rebooting, Phonon couldn't detect the sound chip and sound no
works.

- It can't find my swap partition even though there is an fstab entry.
Complains about invalid UUID.

- The screen has an annoying flicker every ~8-10 seconds, which makes
it nearly unusable. This is a reported bug going back a few weeks.
There is a workaround involving stopping RANDR in services, if you
can figure out how to get to the System > Advanced tab. I couldn't
find it in Plasma.

- Wireless is partially broken. It can see nodes, but dies if I try
to connect to them.

These alone are showstopper bugs for me. And, no I'm not a Linux newbie.
I've been using is as my sole OS since 1994. (Slackware, Red Hat, Debian
and now Kubuntu)

Intrepid sounded nice. I'd really like to play with it. I'll try to fix what broke. If I can't, I'll do a fresh install. :-/ If that still doesn't work, it's back to Hardy for me and I'll wait until to see what happens come next April. And, unless new packages are backported to Hardy (or I compile it myself), I'll be stuck using older versions.

Needless to say, I'm disappointed. A few releases ago, the developers held up the release a week or two because it still needed work. I kind of wish they did it with Intrepid.

So this is not really an angry rant. I realize the developers do a lot of hard work and I appreciate it! Really! Though pitfalls like I experienced give more arguments to those claiming Linux isn't viable alternative to Windows.

some success

Posted Nov 1, 2008 22:51 UTC (Sat) by rbill (guest, #54993) [Link]

Following up my own comment, I did a fresh install of 8.10. It went much better. The annoying screen flicker remained, but at least I was able to apply the workaround. Sadly, though wireless is still broken. I had no luck getting working. It looks to be a known bug since before the release date.
Too bad, for me it is a definite showstopper. :-(

Regretfully, I have to return to using Hardy. When I see the bug fixed, I'll give it another try.

I got a better impression of Intrepid with a mostly working system. It certainly looks promising. Based on my experience, doing fresh install over an upgrade is the better way to go.

some success

Posted Nov 4, 2008 10:30 UTC (Tue) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link]

Based on my experience, doing fresh install over an upgrade is the better way to go.

Thanks Ubuntu, for really improving the Debian system. :/

some success

Posted Nov 7, 2008 4:58 UTC (Fri) by nlucas (subscriber, #33793) [Link]

To give some more anecdote facts, I also upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10.
All went ok, no problems whatsoever. All hardware detected all right. Even the compiz 3D effects where working all right (except for some "noise" just after opening new windows and before the window background is filled).

Very nice visual, cools icons, but... I hate KDE4...
Please! Don't release beta software as fully complete!!!

To redeem myself, instead of "downgrading" back to my 8.04 32-bit Kubuntu, I decided to finally try the 8.04.1 64-bit Kubuntu, so I can still say I made an upgrade to my system :-)

On the other hand, everything seems to be working on 64-bits as well, after the usual fight with the sound card volume controls.

Ubuntu 8.10 has been released

Posted Nov 1, 2008 12:54 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

I had a stone tablet once, but it crushed.

OK-ish on an IBM X31

Posted Nov 6, 2008 10:42 UTC (Thu) by stevan (subscriber, #4342) [Link]

Updated from Xubuntu 8.04 to Ubuntu 8.10. Looks really good. However, I had quite a few problems with pulseaudio and ekiga, and eventually ended up removing pulseaudio from the system.

On a related note, I am troubled at the apparent hatred of many aspects of Canonical and Ubuntu, as though their offering was some right or natural state of being. Clearly Ubuntu has done a lot right, and equally clearly some people seem to resent some aspect of this, or see some fearful negative hidden to the rest of us.

I remain grateful for the entire ecosystem that results in work like Ubuntu, and for the freedoms it seems to me it still allows better than most corporate-backed options. It distresses me that we see such negative polarisation.

S

Some free graphics driver advances

Posted Nov 13, 2008 18:13 UTC (Thu) by anton (guest, #25547) [Link]

Two months ago I got a Dell 3008WFP 2560x1600 display and then I bought a Sapphire Radeon X1650Pro to drive it, and I did manage to get this combo to work with Debian Lenny (with minimal effort), but without hardware 3D acceleration.

I also tried various Live CDs, and many of them failed totally, while others gave me less resolution than the display and graphics card support. So I gave the Ubuntu 8.10 Live CD a spin, and it managed the full resolution using the free radeon driver (without any help from me), and also supports 3D acceleration. I had a problem with the mouse pointer that made the whole thing hard to use, but I hope that users of more modern mice (mine is a PS/2 three-button mouse from Logitech) won't be affected.

In conclusion, despite Ubuntu's reputation as supporting proprietary drivers, this is the first Live CD I have tried that delivers the free drivers that work that well with the hardware above.

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